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how does the 50hz theory affect this tho. I've been hearing lots of people say that 50hz is where the best blend between weight and punch is. And i guess it makes sense as though 20/30hz is nice, too much stuff down there and you just wont hear it. i;d wager most pa systems (excluding dissident, iration, shaka... maybe valve?) are rolling off pretty heavily before they get anywhere near it...

wheres jason at. I remember him popping up ina convo about bass hz in tunes and saying that getting subs down to 20/30hz really aint important...

Most tracks roll off gently from 50hz downwards anyway - even the ones with supposedly big bass / subs. If there is any at 25-30hz, its usually added as sub harmonics at a pretty low level just to push a bit of air under the kicks and bass - nothing too drastic I would've thought, otherwise it loses it's tightness and becomes flabbier than Bella Emberg in a catsuit.

With a few exceptions I'm sure a lot of PA's don't go under 40hz anyway, and those that do have sub harmonic generators to beef up the sub an octave below rather than the tracks themselves containing those frequencies.

Batfink wrote:how does the 50hz theory affect this tho. I've been hearing lots of people say that 50hz is where the best blend between weight and punch is. And i guess it makes sense as though 20/30hz is nice, too much stuff down there and you just wont hear it. i;d wager most pa systems (excluding dissident, iration, shaka... maybe valve?) are rolling off pretty heavily before they get anywhere near it...

wheres jason at. I remember him popping up ina convo about bass hz in tunes and saying that getting subs down to 20/30hz really aint important...

yeah those are good points.

im listening to zombie jig now, cd quality, and i cant really hear the bass much on my system, seems like its always beneath the surface. remains one of my favourites though, but i look forward to hearing it how benga intended

And it's the harmonics (not the fundamental) that make a bass sound bigger than life.

Upper harmonics give the bass more thud, lower harmonics add seismic weight.

Humans can hear between 20Hz upto 20KHz anything below or above we cant hear. However animals can hear a wider range of frequencies for example dog whistles... U blow a dog whistle and u cant hear anything however the dog can hear it thats coz the frequency of it is higher than 20KHz and they can hear higher frequencies than us.

One of Dubsteps main factors is sub bass... Thats why its important to geta good rig if Dubstep is to be played in a club so the emphasis of the sub can be portrayed properly.

Its not a good idea to look too much into getting your bass low as possible coz a good amount of the time it will be so low u cant hear or feel it coz its basically too low.

6 years at Music College finally pays off! haha

KION wrote:And it's the harmonics (not the fundamental) that make a bass sound bigger than life.

Upper harmonics give the bass more thud, lower harmonics add seismic weight.

can you explain this a bit more for the musically illiterate?

Listening to some Matty G mixes, my windows and walls are rattling but I cant really "hear" whats producing it.

Very interesting effect!!!!

slowlygoingdeaf wrote:

KION wrote:And it's the harmonics (not the fundamental) that make a bass sound bigger than life.

Upper harmonics give the bass more thud, lower harmonics add seismic weight.

can you explain this a bit more for the musically illiterate?

Think of it like a piece of toast buttered both sides - one side you put smooth peanut butter, the other you put jam. Eat the toast and walk up the stairway to heaven.

http://download.yousendit.com/6F8A72AE38421633

^^ a sine wave sweep from 20 hz to 100hz over the course of 20 seconds

just so you get the idea of what hz your speakers can pick up

slowlygoingdeaf wrote:

Deapoh wrote:Bengas tunes go down to 20hz. Anything lower and it can rattle your lungs so much that they bleed and you choke to death! - Thats coming from Jason Transition.

interesting. i take it bengas not the only one who has bass that low and thats common for dubstep producers?

i heard that bass at certain extremely low frequencies can make you lose bowel control. apparently the us military is looking into it to incapacitate crowds.

my speakers go down to 49hz and when i play ancient memories my windows shake violently. i need a sub.

The brown note or "disco dump" is a myth.
http://www.meyersound.com.au/brownnote.shtm

“It was pretty amazing to be there,” he recounts. “I was a good 20 feet away, but I was feeling the effects as well – though less so than Adam, certainly.” Clearly, this MythBusters episode represents the ultimate embodiment of the old adage stating “It’s a dirty job but somebody has to do it.”

That implies that the mythbusters were busted?

DAMN

Can I say 'wet dream'?

Funktion One is I once had the chance to experience a (60kW) Funktion One soundsystem (@ Drop beats not Bombs in Birmingham, breakbeat area hosted by Trigger)

It got me high on bass, unbelievable!! Their speakers can handle 20Hz frequencies. The sound wasn't loud, it was just ... wtf, words can't describe

KION wrote:

“It was pretty amazing to be there,” he recounts. “I was a good 20 feet away, but I was feeling the effects as well – though less so than Adam, certainly.” Clearly, this MythBusters episode represents the ultimate embodiment of the old adage stating “It’s a dirty job but somebody has to do it.”

That implies that the mythbusters were busted?

There was another episode and they held the "brown note " out as a teaser for the next episode.

This is what they found:



Guess what? No poops.

They played the speakers at >160 decibels. Even though the test subject couldn't hear it, he still had to wear earmuffs to keep his ears from blasting out. He did admit, however, that the constant pressure and battering from the speakers after a long time made him feel kind of mopey and a little dizzy, but that was it. He was still fine to walk around.[/i]

Diablo wrote:Listening to some Matty G mixes, my windows and walls are rattling but I cant really "hear" whats producing it.

Very interesting effect!!!!

I've noticed this with alot of Matty G tunes. His bass tones are hard to hear but shit can you feel em.

Deapoh wrote:Bengas tunes go down to 20hz. Anything lower and it can rattle your lungs so much that they bleed and you choke to death! - Thats coming from Jason Transition.

woah so does this mean unmastered tunes could possibly kill people with reckless bass?

Parson wrote:

Deapoh wrote:Bengas tunes go down to 20hz. Anything lower and it can rattle your lungs so much that they bleed and you choke to death! - Thats coming from Jason Transition.

woah so does this mean unmastered tunes could possibly kill people with reckless bass?

murder on the dancefloor

Harlesden wrote:

Parson wrote:woah so does this mean unmastered tunes could possibly kill people with reckless bass?

murder on the dancefloor

lol

this thread has boggled my mind!

bass science

I was always told that anything under 37hz is not just unhearable but just causes stress to your amp n speakers. This is why you always cut that end of the specturum out.

I might be wrong but at 20hz you deffo aint hearing it n will only feel it if you got sum nice big low subs.

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