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DZA wrote:Ableton = win

NUFF SED!!!

Lman wrote:

SunkLo wrote:

volcanogeorge wrote:Acid Pro 7 anyone ?

Who are you, fucking Rusko?

your all bashing macs cus you lot carnt afford them. /snobbery

nah joking aside, logic = muscle

back2onett wrote:I haven't used too many other DAWs but here goes.

FL Studio is just so simple and unrestricting. straight out of the box you don't even have to read the manual to start making beats it's that esy.

Point me in the direction of any other DAW there you can press ONE button (that's right just one) and see everything that's going in with any mixer track; it shows you all the FX, any panning or stereo separation, any sends, any external inputs, all of that on ONE screen without having to flick from EQ to FX to Sends which is just an unecessary waste of time.

Point me in the direction of any other DAW where well over 90% of ALL parameters can be automated with 2 clicks
(right click -> edit events/create automation clip). In fact most of the FL right click options are gold; reset to default value, saved my life too many times and can be done with a simple middle mouse button click. Link to controller, so many options here, link it up to the peak controller for sidechaining (which also has a built in LFO) or hook it up to the envelope controller with 4 custom envelopes and 4 LFOs, or hook it up to one of the other numerous controllers in FL and go nuts.

Point me in the direction of any other DAW with a built in sampler as awesome as FL, one click auditioning, you don't have to bring it into your project to listen to it, use a media player to do it, or bring up some extra bullshit menu for it just one simple click does the job. Then once you've got your sample you can filter it with one of the 8 built in filters with for separate envelopes for volume, pitch, cutoof and resonance all without having to go anywhere near the mixer or using any external FX. Or you can use the built in audio editor, chop up your samples and NOT have toe render/export it to use it in the same project you just drag it onto the step sequenceror the playlist and your done.

And that's literally just a fragment of FLs awesomeness, any other FLers feel free to add something

mmjdw wrote:But I refuse to pay £1000 for a laptop then another £500 for the DAW. Bring it to PC please.

paravrais wrote:

Lman wrote:

SunkLo wrote:

volcanogeorge wrote:Acid Pro 7 anyone ?

Who are you, fucking Rusko?

your all bashing macs cus you lot carnt afford them. /snobbery

nah joking aside, logic = muscle

Actually my laptop cost the same as a high spec macbook (or whatever they are called these days) I just refuse to buy one on moral grounds!

abZ wrote:Fruityloops - Can't tell people what you use with a straight face

abZ wrote:Reaper - free so can't be good
Fruityloops - Can't tell people what you use with a straight face
Acid pro - acid is awesome as long as we are not talking about the software
Logic - it's real purty, for gays and girls
Cubase - you need an engineering certificate to do the most basic things
Reason - no vst rotfl
Pro tools - for professional tools
Any tracker - you really use reason or fl you just won't admit it

Ableton wins

Reason rewired to Ableton = god mode

abZ wrote:Ableton - overpriced so can't be good
Fruityloops - Can't tell people what you use with a straight face
Acid pro - acid is awesome as long as we are not talking about the software
Logic - it's real purty, for gays and girls
Cubase - you need an engineering certificate to do the most basic things
Reason - no vst rotfl
Pro tools - for professional tools
Any tracker - you really use reason or fl you just won't admit it

Reaper wins

futures_untold wrote:

abZ wrote:Ableton - overpriced so can't be good
Fruityloops - Can't tell people what you use with a straight face
Acid pro - acid is awesome as long as we are not talking about the software
Logic - it's real purty, for gays and girls
Cubase - you need an engineering certificate to do the most basic things
Reason - no vst rotfl
Pro tools - for professional tools
Any tracker - you really use reason or fl you just won't admit it

Ableton + Reason wins

Fix'd...

futures_untold wrote:Isn't Ableton really buggy?

And for all the money you spent, surely you want a stable product

futures_untold wrote:Isn't Ableton really buggy?

And for all the money you spent, surely you want a stable product

SunkLo wrote:oh you use Reaper too...

Yeah it's great for a multitude of reasons. Editing items is really easy, the versatile tracks that aren't limited to one type of media, simple routing. It's customizable, the bundled plugins are actually really useful, and it's got built in VU meters beside the master peak meters! Chea!

Reason sucks because it doesn't seem very precise with levels. The routing is flexible but convoluted. Don't like midi editing, no vst, no audio... Oh yeah and doesn't it still only take up part of your screen? STUPID!

Haven't played with Cubase lately but I've always generally got the impression that its users were all douchebags

Pro Tools is shit.
Shit.
Proprietary hardware, crippled LE and MP versions just so you'll pay oodlez of dollars to upgrade to HD (did they fix the PDC yet?) Some nice bundled plugins but fuck off with using RTAS for everything. Just admit Steiny won with VST

Logic is sweet but macs are for cigarettes

Ableton just has an unintuitive layout and the way it handles things just weirds me out

Renoise looks kinda kool but I can't be stuck to a grid, I need to be able to manually place notes exactly where I want em

Anything else is too obscure to immediately come to mind (I'm looking at you Sonar) and thus is poop.

Oh yeah and FL is still called Fruity Loops by everyone. What a stupid name decision. Change all your plugins from Fruity this and Fruity that to "Testosterone Compressor" and "Manly Chorus" and then we'll talk. Windows end up in a giant layered cluster fuck. Having to patch things to a mixer track instead of one being created for each lane is dumb. The separation between patterns and playlist editor is not conductive to flow.

Reaper/GTFO