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Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:38 pm
by shaneynclan
alphacat wrote:shaneynclan wrote:i'm down, this seems cool.
one question though:
can we use native eq's that are included in the daw's channel strip?
If you can bypass the EQ's and use the Kjaerhus EQ instead, that would be preferable. If this is somehow impossible in your DAW then I'm willing to overlook it in favor of being as inclusive as possible though. What DAW you usin'?
i do not have to use the native eq's in my daw, i'm using cubase, and they are easy to just not turn on.
i was just curious if they could be used since they are technically part of the daw.
no worries though.
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:57 pm
by deadly_habit
god making me get creative and cramping my usual workflow with all this resampling and creative routing and fx chains
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:23 pm
by alphacat
Yeah, then bypass 'em and use the Kjaerhus EQ.
Gotta say that I've already learned some new shit about the Kjaerhus plugs just from being forced to use only them. That Auto-Filter has some neat tricks up its sleeve...
Deadly, I can't wait to hear your tune. I hope your buttonfingerz get all twisted and evil-looking from having to use only this stuff.

Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:29 pm
by mexter dorgan
I use Reason's ReDrum for drums, can I use it?
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:06 pm
by nowaysj
Only if you are standing on your head while you do.
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:13 pm
by Y_H
might aswell have a crack at this!
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:08 pm
by alphacat
mexter dorgan wrote:I use Reason's ReDrum for drums, can I use it?
I haven't touched Reason for many years now: can you load the contest's drum kit samples into it to use 'em only for sequencing? If not (if they make you use one of their own Reason samplebanks,) just use the NN-XT, which is what you'll probably be using for the breakbeat sample anyway.
Question:
If you're using Reason, what're you using for your VST host?
Don't forget: no native FX on anything.
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:24 pm
by mexter dorgan
alphacat wrote:mexter dorgan wrote:I use Reason's ReDrum for drums, can I use it?
I haven't touched Reason for many years now: can you load the contest's drum kit samples into it to use 'em only for sequencing? If not (if they make you use one of their own Reason samplebanks,) just use the NN-XT, which is what you'll probably be using for the breakbeat sample anyway.
Question:
If you're using Reason, what're you using for your VST host?
Don't forget: no native FX on anything.
Reaper for vsti's and reason for the drum machine which I plan on sequencing the beats with, just tryin not to get disqualified for nothin

Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:54 am
by amphibian
alphacat wrote:And finally, as far as bugginess: older, dodgier systems have been known to choke a little bit under ELEK7RO's cpu load; make sure you have the newest version first (released last month.) If it's still acting bitchy, perhaps running it alone in a separate session and rendering results to import back into the main project can be a viable workaround (listen to me - I sound like I'm actually doing my day job here too. )
You're right about VSTs being slanted towards PCs, and I know there's a mac AU wrapper for VSTs, but it doesn't always get the required results.
Am running on a brand-new quad-core i7 macbook pro - performance is definitely not an issue =P
Thing is I've seen Tal Elec7ro used by depone in logic and it appears to run just fine, so not sure why it's so buggy on my setup. It irks me because it looks and feels like a very solid synth.
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:18 am
by frank grimes jr.
I feel like I'm in some type of aquatic lab ATM.
Fluids with various degrees of density floating all about and such.
I am also having my way with the auto filter, which I had yet to discover until now.
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:11 am
by dblth1nk
downloaded....this looks like some fun...think i might have a go

Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:39 pm
by JBE
I don't know if anyone else is having this problem, but with FL 9, whenever I use Elek7ro it doesn't process the first note. It's rather annoying. I'm having to layout the melody one note ahead of time then bounce it and go back and cut it out and reset the .wav to the right spot. Every other VST I have is just fine, but this one for some reason continues to do it, and it's making it very frustrating to get anything down as I'm constantly losing any kind of flow I'm trying to get into having to fiddle with the wav every time.
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:08 pm
by deadly_habit
yea with this combo dunno if it's the classic collection or elec7ro had a few daw crashes and that shit hasn't happened in agessss
oh well at least i saw frequently
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:54 pm
by nowaysj
JBE wrote:I don't know if anyone else is having this problem, but with FL 9, whenever I use Elek7ro it doesn't process the first note. It's rather annoying. I'm having to layout the melody one note ahead of time then bounce it and go back and cut it out and reset the .wav to the right spot. Every other VST I have is just fine, but this one for some reason continues to do it, and it's making it very frustrating to get anything down as I'm constantly losing any kind of flow I'm trying to get into having to fiddle with the wav every time.
I installed elek7tro on my laptop, and didn't have any problem, but I didn't have a note at 1,1. I had one at 1,2 and it played fine. Lemme install on my main rig, and see if there is a problem, and if so, if there is a solution.
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:33 pm
by alphacat
So far - even with my clunky old PC - it's running smooth, although more than 2 instances with automation makes it start to freak out a little. Been doing a lot of separate session rendering, which is interesting in and of itself as a departure from my normal workflow.
According to release notes for an earlier version: "Filter slur while playing the first note and in program change fixed. (v1.02)"
Maybe there's something in your hosts that's (for example) starting at timestamp 1.0.1 instead of 1.0.0, or something like that?
Oh, and 60 downloads of the contest pack -

- nice.
Now if we see 15 entries out of those... oh my gosh. I'll be shocked for sure!

Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:46 pm
by nowaysj
2 are from me

Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:26 pm
by frank grimes jr.
D'oh!
Me as well.

1 for home, 1 for the office.
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:37 pm
by JBE
nowaysj wrote:JBE wrote:I don't know if anyone else is having this problem, but with FL 9, whenever I use Elek7ro it doesn't process the first note. It's rather annoying. I'm having to layout the melody one note ahead of time then bounce it and go back and cut it out and reset the .wav to the right spot. Every other VST I have is just fine, but this one for some reason continues to do it, and it's making it very frustrating to get anything down as I'm constantly losing any kind of flow I'm trying to get into having to fiddle with the wav every time.
I installed elek7tro on my laptop, and didn't have any problem, but I didn't have a note at 1,1. I had one at 1,2 and it played fine. Lemme install on my main rig, and see if there is a problem, and if so, if there is a solution.
I tried placing the first note on a different timestamp or whatever, still does it. I've re-installed the latest version like 4 times to different folders and all kinds of stuff to try and fix this but for whatever reason it keeps doing it. I've looked around on some forums and I think I saw 1 or 2 other people that had the same problem but there were no solutions posted. Apparently this was a big issue with some older versions but it was supposedly fixed quite awhile back, but alas, here it is. I guess i'm going to have to go with what I have so far and try to do something via the other samples rather than with the instrument. It's just frustrating trying to cut all these dead notes and compensate for them.
I've also noticed that it's not just the first note. I've done a couple 4 bar melodies on it, and it's not playing 3 notes within that 4 bar melody. I've actually had to render it out, then render a new .wav with those 3 notes and then cut and paste them into the original .wav file for the whole melody. I gotta say, you don't actually need those expensive instruments, but when some of the free ones can cause this much hassle, sometimes it's worth it. Hopefully the next contest uses Superwave P8

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Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:52 pm
by paravrais
I havn't had any problems using the software. Finding this a real challenge though, lots of fun but a real challenge. Mostly because imo that EQ is cack and I don't like the analogue samples provided so i'm putting in some legwork to get it sounding how I want...
Re: DSF VSTi Contest #1!
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:10 pm
by mexter dorgan
paravrais wrote:I havn't had any problems using the software. Finding this a real challenge though, lots of fun but a real challenge. Mostly because imo that EQ is cack and I don't like the analogue samples provided so i'm putting in some legwork to get it sounding how I want...
this is word for word exactly what I'm goin through
