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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:48 pm
by bagelator
everyone i know thinks it's crap. that's why i listen to it. it makes me look edgy

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:24 pm
by Jubz
As much as I care about what your mate thinks of dubstep...

oh hang on, actually I DONT.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:24 pm
by p-roc
I always tell the unknowing that dubstep is bass and drum, not the other way round. After that it's up to them...

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:10 am
by hatsudai
seckle wrote:it's ok to not like dubstep. just want to put that out there. the worst thing you can do is force things on people.
Amen to that.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:10 am
by Vice T
Let the Haters hate. It's our sound. luckily I like sharing and, most people I let hear the more people that love it. I think Dubstep has a very different rhythm then most electronic music. It has more of a back beat and, the bass is there. I have brought over some d&b heads and I am glad. I feel that they need something different and need to be inspired by music again.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:52 am
by oopu
soooo what! different strokes fo different folks. besides hard to compare dubstep...well then again... i see it as the blessed godchild of dub in that skankin spleefn soulful, pacing and MOOD. Lots of D&B heads these days i see are speed freaks looking for some head banging music...the louder and more obnoxious, the better. talk about oil and water!

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:06 am
by Vice T
I think drugs really ruined a lot of music. I like your point about oil and water. But, I think there is a lot to the idea that Dubstep has pulled a lot of the feeling of early Jungle, to which d&b came from. With the vibes and all.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:59 am
by efa
Well it has, which is why i fell in love with it.

Sorry didn't read the whole post but to answer the thread :?:

My mate who's a House/Breaks head walked into a dubstep room and was skankin like a bastard within seconds. Then Vex'd came on and he went mental! I was predomantly Jungle and Techy/Minimal House based (with the odd dark garage/dubstep tune in the box) then heard burial, my poor bank balance
:|

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:31 am
by feasible_weasel
EFA wrote:Well it has, which is why i fell in love with it.

Sorry didn't read the whole post but to answer the thread :?:

My mate who's a House/Breaks head walked into a dubstep room and was skankin like a bastard within seconds. Then Vex'd came on and he went mental! I was predomantly Jungle and Techy/Minimal House based (with the odd dark garage/dubstep tune in the box) then heard burial, my poor bank balance
:|
that vexd got me too :D somebody was thumping out some music next door,and i just bought the cd. and i just cranked it up,and his music went quiet after 5 minuites :lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:43 am
by oyaarss
if one avoids listening to dubstep because it's "easier to produce" :roll: , i call it snobbery. COME ON! it's not about the process, it's all about the results. this is hell of a point your dude has kinda forgotten. as a drumfunk & dubstep lover, i am goddam sure that dubstep has earned its place under the sun more than most of dnb stuff these days (talking abut the whole clownstep machinery, uknow) or the s-called hiphop (i'd rather call it "mtv-hop").

the reason i fell in love with dubstep is it's innovating aspect. you claim "dubstep doesn't genenarate, it only re-arranges"? but none said it doesn't. this is the point where dubstep is similar to dnb - both are sample-based music, produced by hi-tech tools, re-generating the past and building the future at the same time, and bla-bla-bla. i just love this quote - "Dubstep is a culture built around twin drives, the drive to press things FWD, and the drive to preserve and revere the past. " (c)Siah Alan

i hope this discussion won't burst out just like the recent "PENDULUM vs. PARADOX" wrangle

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:50 am
by batfink
this is what my mate said:

It is like really badly produced drum and bass played at 1/2 speed with keyboard lines from a randomly made up scale using a cheap and nasty preset, most of the time, or like Hybrid's "Know Your Enemy" re-written by a talentless spack.


lol!


i convinced him of dubstep's worthiness by pointing him at paul rose's N4 mix. no one can withstand its charms. :lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:29 pm
by musty dust
all my mates are drum and bass heads but i have seen a massive surge in heads now who want to go down to night in bristol. when i first started to go down to the nights i felt quite young compaired to the Majority of people at the dances but resently more and more people of my age group have started to pay alot more intrested in dubstep...

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:51 pm
by spaceboy
was out for dinner with the head of a&r for a top major label (wont reveal the name here) and i was explaining to him hotflush and dubstep.

he was like its all well and good, but it doesnt sell. To have a budget to release an artist you want to be making a massive profit, otherwise its pointless - so its only really about rock and pop music. Unfortunately according to him, urban music doesnt generate that, there are exceptions of course.

Lovely guy but I came to the conclusion that majors only care about cash and profit, none of the keeping true to rebelious underground music vibe works with them.

Which is probably a good thing IMHO.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:54 pm
by pompende
Spaceboy wrote:I came to the conclusion that majors only care about cash and profit, none of the keeping true to rebelious underground music vibe works with them.

Which is probably a good thing IMHO.
definitely a good thing. no question.
major labels use the same machinery as slaughterhouse. gut&cut soulful music just bovines.

lovers gonna love, haters gonna hate.
churchill said that.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:56 pm
by pompende
actually, this is quite funny because almost everyone i know feel that both drumnbass and dubstep are equally horrible.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:58 pm
by thinking
Spaceboy wrote:was out for dinner with the head of a&r for a top major label......Lovely guy but I came to the conclusion that majors only care about cash and profit

you sound surprised Sid. :lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:05 pm
by little boh peep
Spaceboy wrote:Lovely guy but I came to the conclusion that majors only care about cash and profit, none of the keeping true to rebelious underground music vibe works with them.
The music business for majors is less about music and more about business.

You have mail BTW.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:18 pm
by struggle
sick of people comparing dubstep with dnb. seriously time to move on.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:50 pm
by random trio
Spaceboy wrote:

Lovely guy but I came to the conclusion that majors only care about cash and profit, none of the keeping true to rebelious underground music vibe works with them.

Which is probably a good thing IMHO.
most defo is, going mainstream is what killed ukg in my opinion. defo dont want that happening here..

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:35 pm
by dubplodocus
autonomic wrote:Image

PWND!