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jaydot wrote:

Recessive Trait wrote:jaydot, you are one of the worst subgenre offenders around. .

I am??

Well A> you clearly think there are people on earth who actually take these seriously

B> Your listing things that are so exclusively descriptive they couldnt begin to fall into a genre as they only describe a limited number of tracks

C> you actually said drumstep and not half-time/autonomal dnb

D> grungestep??? after how bad we cracked on that guy???

yah when i show people my tunes i seem to hear "oh thats not dubstep"...I do consciously try to make something that sounds different but its funny

i'm not sure you should let that get to you, i had someone tell me benga didn't make dubstep the other night

i don't want to sound like i'm tooting my own horn but i think some of my stuff sounds different to standard dubstep. now the reason i think it sounds different is simply because i don't listen to dubstep at all. i don't try to copy skream, i don't try to find a place to put a "yoy" bassline in my tune before i can call it finished...ect. in fact i won't ever use anything like that bassline just because of how rinsed it is.

that's one of the main problems - i think a lot of young producers strive to sound like the people they look up to, rather than sound like themselves. i too was guilty of wasting years of time wanting to sound like bad company/phace/noisia, when in reality i'm making life a lot harder for myself. i'd make a new tune and be so proud of it, then i'd hear the new phace tune and feel like i was useless. i was defeating myself because my mixes are never going to sound that good until i can afford to use high end mastering houses too. then i just stopped buying music altogether and suddenly i started to get my own sound. i don't think it's a coincidence. also i think my age and listening to other genres a lot more than dubstep helps too.

so yea, imo a good way to sound original is to stop obsessing over that genre you like, stop obsessing over that sound you try to replicate. maybe even stop buying as much music and kinda just keep concentrated on YOUR stuff.

ugh, who cares, just make music you like.

Not giving a shit about being original is greatest form of originality. If you make tunes and try to be original, you're more than likely just gonna make a mess, a load of weird ass sounds, in an incomprehensible structure, that fuses six genres, over a spoken word rendition of some pretentious wank that means absolutely nothing because it only exists to sound different. What a sad and pointless reason for a song to exist.

If you make a tune for yourself, the way you want to hear it, then you've already made something original, you've basically copied and pasted yourself into your daw and released it as music. Nobody else in the world can take you, or your memories and ideas and feelings and describe it in music, only you can. That is far more original that some new and crazy ass sound you made. If I'm listening to a song, I don't want to hear crazy sounds. I want to hear a fucking song that's actually about something a song that doesn't just exist for the sake of existing. I want to hear the artist basically. If his/her representation of himself/herself is considered 'original' or has some cool sounds that's a bonus, but it should be a secondary aim, if it is one at all.

write music that speaks from your soul. imo a song that conveyes someones emotion is far greater that a song that is "original" for the sake of being original.

Do what sounds best to you and don't be afraid to experiment with different sounds,mixing techniques,different ways to go about sound engineering,song structure or whatever. The point is to find your "niche" that will distinguish yourself from others and you will see this with many producers and they will have a consistent sound that just sounds like "them" even though their productions have changed over time.

Too much talking, too little producing

Being original is just about doing what is true to yourself.. its really that simple if you sound like another artist without intentionally doing so then it don't matter cause you're doing whats in your heart and not your concious thoughts.

legend4ry wrote:Being original is just about doing what is true to yourself.. its really that simple if you sound like another artist without intentionally doing so then it don't matter cause you're doing whats in your heart and not your concious thoughts.

but how do i sound like datsik?
i am a robot and have no heart and i want my music to sound generic like the mass produced circuitry my body is composed of

Being original isn't easy..... not having midrange doesn't automatically make you original, half the fucking 'deep' dubstep sounds the fucking same to me. Its all about having an idea imo, and then having the production skills/talent to make something listenable out of that idea.

hakka wrote:Too much talking, too little producing

3 tunes in 3 days... How many have you made?

kaiori breathe wrote: 3 tunes in 3 days

I miss those days...

kaiori breathe wrote:ugh, who cares, just make music you like.

Not giving a shit about being original is greatest form of originality. If you make tunes and try to be original, you're more than likely just gonna make a mess, a load of weird ass sounds, in an incomprehensible structure, that fuses six genres, over a spoken word rendition of some pretentious wank that means absolutely nothing because it only exists to sound different. What a sad and pointless reason for a song to exist.

If you make a tune for yourself, the way you want to hear it, then you've already made something original, you've basically copied and pasted yourself into your daw and released it as music. Nobody else in the world can take you, or your memories and ideas and feelings and describe it in music, only you can. That is far more original that some new and crazy ass sound you made. If I'm listening to a song, I don't want to hear crazy sounds. I want to hear a fucking song that's actually about something a song that doesn't just exist for the sake of existing. I want to hear the artist basically. If his/her representation of himself/herself is considered 'original' or has some cool sounds that's a bonus, but it should be a secondary aim, if it is one at all.

truth!

kaiori breathe wrote:ugh, who cares, just make music you like.

Not giving a shit about being original is greatest form of originality. If you make tunes and try to be original, you're more than likely just gonna make a mess, a load of weird ass sounds, in an incomprehensible structure, that fuses six genres, over a spoken word rendition of some pretentious wank that means absolutely nothing because it only exists to sound different. What a sad and pointless reason for a song to exist.

If you make a tune for yourself, the way you want to hear it, then you've already made something original, you've basically copied and pasted yourself into your daw and released it as music. Nobody else in the world can take you, or your memories and ideas and feelings and describe it in music, only you can. That is far more original that some new and crazy ass sound you made. If I'm listening to a song, I don't want to hear crazy sounds. I want to hear a fucking song that's actually about something a song that doesn't just exist for the sake of existing. I want to hear the artist basically. If his/her representation of himself/herself is considered 'original' or has some cool sounds that's a bonus, but it should be a secondary aim, if it is one at all.

Bam. On point. Music aient fucking wallpaper.

jaydot wrote:How do you get it? For me most people want to make "a wobble like x producer", myself included in that-now I want to do my own thing and tell myself not to follow the crowd. Even when people go "you should do it like this" for me there shouldn't be no rules. A lot of dubstep sounds the same, we all know that, but what I'm really getting at with this thread is how you go about stamping your own mark which is original....anyone got examples of what they would consider "original" dubstep?

I think that experimentation with a crossover of other genres is good (grungestep, trancestep, and I had a go at some 176 hophopdrumstep, "bounce your bumpers" in my signature). And not following the crowd even when the demand for a certain style outweighs supply of producers producing it, so to speak....your thoughts?

Take some time out from trying to make dubstep, mess around and let whatever's flowing out of you happen. Do not worry about genre. You may discover that you really enjoy making new sounds and textures that get you excited, explore those avenues.

If that path leads you back to feeling like there's more of yourself going into your tunes then you're sorted, regardless of whether it can be labelled dubstep or not.

here, here! Grungestep is BOSS. lololol.

yea man, you should just make music, regardless of what genre it is, see where you tracks go after working for a few hours, or days, or weeks, or months, whatever you need to do personally.

and hey, dont tell the guy not to mention Grungestep, if he wants to do that, or dirt crunk mosh hardcore tech rap, let him experiment, lousy uptight dubstepforum haterz. let him make jazz, for fuck's sake, don't tell him not to say the word "grungestep" just cuz some of you are afraid of certain types of music. and no, whoever said grungestep is not a form of music, it's just dubstep remixes of grunge, well, obviously you haven't heard much grungestep then...firstly it's not just dubstep, it's glitch, hip hop, whatever... and secondly, there are original grungestep=type tracks being made, original as in NOT JUST REMIXES... but y'all wouldnt know that cuz u're heads in the sand and you only listen to Benga.


good luck, man, trying to find your voice musically, hope it works out, don't listen to anyone on this site if you don't want, just do what feels right musically, and fuck everyone else's opinions... make green-noise-funk-jazz-step, if you please lol
oh yea, and....
GRUNGESTEP MASSIVE! roflcopters.



-will

... just try not to make any BURGER FUNK... lord knows there's enough of THAT shit in the world

StrangeFlow wrote:here, here! Grungestep is BOSS. lololol.

yea man, you should just make music, regardless of what genre it is, see where you tracks go after working for a few hours, or days, or weeks, or months, whatever you need to do personally.

and hey, dont tell the guy not to mention Grungestep, if he wants to do that, or dirt crunk mosh hardcore tech rap, let him experiment, lousy uptight dubstepforum haterz. let him make jazz, for fuck's sake, don't tell him not to say the word "grungestep" just cuz some of you are afraid of certain types of music. and no, whoever said grungestep is not a form of music, it's just dubstep remixes of grunge, well, obviously you haven't heard much grungestep then...firstly it's not just dubstep, it's glitch, hip hop, whatever... and secondly, there are original grungestep=type tracks being made, original as in NOT JUST REMIXES... but y'all wouldnt know that cuz u're heads in the sand and you only listen to Benga.


good luck, man, trying to find your voice musically, hope it works out, don't listen to anyone on this site if you don't want, just do what feels right musically, and fuck everyone else's opinions... make green-noise-funk-jazz-step, if you please lol
oh yea, and....
GRUNGESTEP MASSIVE! roflcopters.



-will

You fully don't understand our problem here. In fact the whole message throughout this thread has been make whatever you wanna make, whatever feels right to you. But you can't go deciding you've created a new genre just because you really wish you had. It's dubstep with a grunge influence, there's no such thing as grungestep. Distance didn't release all his stuff under the moniker 'metalstep' did he? appleblim isn't 'minimal technostep' joker isn't 'analogue8bitstep' I'm not 'orientalambientstep' Magnetic Man aren't 'popstep' Burial isn't '2stepstep' do you get it yet? or do I need to go on?

Your a perfect example of someone straining so hard to create something 'original' that you've blown all your creative muscles.

paravrais wrote:

StrangeFlow wrote:here, here! Grungestep is BOSS. lololol.

You fully don't understand our problem here. In fact the whole message throughout this thread has been make whatever you wanna make, whatever feels right to you. But you can't go deciding you've created a new genre just because you really wish you had. It's dubstep with a grunge influence, there's no such thing as grungestep. Distance didn't release all his stuff under the moniker 'metalstep' did he? appleblim isn't 'minimal technostep' joker isn't 'analogue8bitstep' I'm not 'orientalambientstep' Magnetic Man aren't 'popstep' Burial isn't '2stepstep' do you get it yet? or do I need to go on?

Your a perfect example of someone straining so hard to create something 'original' that you've blown all your creative muscles.

hahaha... sooo... because i came up with a phrase that you don't like, i'm suddenly not creative at all? what? thats ridiculous! hahahaha! look, if you hate the idea of combining 90s rock and electronic, ok fine, thats completely fine actually.... but to say that's automatically not creative in the least, well, that's just you being a rude little dumbshit. go back and take some more xanax and play WOW in your mom's basement or whatever you do when you're not freaking out. lol. just tryin to offer my two sense on this dude's problem, and i still say im right, 100% - he should do what turns him on musically, regardless of what it's called, regardless of how other people think of it...
and btw, about making genre-names or making genres, i never really took the name grungestep too seriously, the name is actually half-joking, so dont take everything so seriously.. i think its obvious im not taking things TOO seriously when i make up a joking phrase like - jazz-funk-step, or whatever it was i said, i dont intend on grungestep being one of the TOP 5 GENRES OF THE LAST 75 YEARS! so , yea... and also, your logic- that adding the word STEP to anything is stupid.. well... aren't we on a forum, right now.. called... DUB-STEP-forum? isn't that kinda... i dont know... ironic? or.. oh, no, i get it, it's OK to say DUBSTEP and 2-STEP, but joking aroudn with other phrases, well, that's THE DEVIL, right? ok, i getcha..