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Re: Aparticipatory Delusional Syndrome (ADS) 2.0

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:18 am
by lloydnoise
time exists as an evolutionary parameter for space. It also exists in our minds (ergo the universe) to create structure or order when possible. Like a lot of fundamental physics it is almost more of an 'idea' than a solid tangible 'thing' but it exists in our consciousness and therefore exists...right?

:?

maybe i'm getting hung up on semantics but to me 'time' is something that i experience and use based on cues from the universe around me, i have a definition of something I call time and unless I'm mad, that means it exists, to me at least.

Re: Aparticipatory Delusional Syndrome (ADS) 2.0

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:39 am
by djelements
Time might not exist, but the human perception of time is inescapable.


EDIT: Actually you could make an argument for acid helping to remove said perception, at least temporarily.

Re: Aparticipatory Delusional Syndrome (ADS) 2.0

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:39 am
by alien pimp
i'm not denying the concept of time exists in our mind, but that's all there is, besides a huge confusion between reality and imagination

i have in mind the concept of a machine that unclutters all human brains and allows them to think logically, so this machine exists in the universe, so all people are safe, yaaaaay!

Re: Aparticipatory Delusional Syndrome (ADS) 2.0

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:49 am
by alien pimp
djelements wrote:Time might not exist, but the human perception of time is inescapable.


EDIT: Actually you could make an argument for acid helping to remove said perception, at least temporarily.
actually this is the best post i've read from you ever, keep it this way

but it is possible to escape all these educated perceptions through self-education
one thing is to use time to put order in shit and another thing is to say time exists
it's kinda like you would say there's a chain that holds all the people in the line at cinema just because you can't see what else keeps them ordered there

Re: Aparticipatory Delusional Syndrome (ADS) 2.0

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:36 am
by parson
time is as real as space.

which is to say they're one thing, but neither actually exists.

Re: Aparticipatory Delusional Syndrome (ADS) 2.0

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:50 am
by alien pimp
parson wrote:time is as real as space.

which is to say they're one thing, but neither actually exists.
it's easy to state things, even helixelements does it all the time, a difference is made when you can provide a solid back-up for those statements (assuming they're correct). that's why your posts rarely make more difference than noise

Re: Aparticipatory Delusional Syndrome (ADS) 2.0

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:43 am
by parson
i know you dont understand basic physics. you've expressed this multiple times. that doesn't mean i have to prove it to you. i'm not going to prove basic physics to alien pimp. i'm just not going to do it.

Re: Aparticipatory Delusional Syndrome (ADS) 2.0

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:01 am
by alien pimp
parson wrote:i know you dont understand basic physics. you've expressed this multiple times. that doesn't mean i have to prove it to you. i'm not going to prove basic physics to alien pimp. i'm just not going to do it.
that explanation would work if you have ever proved anything to anybody, but you didn't prove much even to yourself, you know that, that's why you are so afraid to go that path ... proving is just not your thing, believing is

Re: Aparticipatory Delusional Syndrome (ADS) 2.0

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:09 am
by BLAHBLAHJAH
*Virtual postcard from some British idiot to the rest of the world*

forest + trees,

shake the snow
see the leafs

distractive treats
overly
concerned
with
detail;
not understanding
the
whole
situation
[...they got me facein'.
I can't live a normal life, I was raised by the street. (or strip)
So I gotta be down wit the hood team.
Too much television watching got me chasing dreams.
I'm a educated fool wit money on my mind.
Got my ten in my hand and the glim in my eye.
I'm a loped out gangster set trippin banger.
And my homies is down so don't arouse my anger, FOOL.
Death ain't notin but a heartbeat away.
I'm livin life do or die, what can I say.
I'm 23 now but will I live to see 24.
The way things is going I don't know. ]

blah

pummeled the splitting of egos innit. Totally sucks tbh, Ruff tingz bludz

Learning to ignore the enlightened, wonder if they too preach because wisdom is incarceration... A bizzare map of sanity where the only way to cope witht he trauma is to point out the backwards concept that 'sleeping' people are not actually suffering. Poetry at it's finest to shout rhetoric/soliloquy unto deafened ears... gets meh... Like superman who twigged on 'great power comes great responsibility' - the one man mission of thought genuinely doesn't dabble/quantify 'power' and thus gotted no concepts of 'responsibility'. All it can live by is "a problem shared is a goblin spared" and my crock of gold ain't a crock o shittttttttttttttttttttttttttt

SEE YALL COOLIOS ON T'OTHER SIDE,
WISH U WER HER(e?)
Image

Re: Aparticipatory Delusional Syndrome (ADS) 2.0

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:30 am
by alien pimp
BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:*Virtual postcard from some British idiot to the rest of the world*

forest + trees,

shake the snow
see the leafs

distractive treats
overly
concerned
with
detail;
not understanding
the
whole
situation
[...they got me facein'.
I can't live a normal life, I was raised by the street. (or strip)
So I gotta be down wit the hood team.
Too much television watching got me chasing dreams.
I'm a educated fool wit money on my mind.
Got my ten in my hand and the glim in my eye.
I'm a loped out gangster set trippin banger.
And my homies is down so don't arouse my anger, FOOL.
Death ain't notin but a heartbeat away.
I'm livin life do or die, what can I say.
I'm 23 now but will I live to see 24.
The way things is going I don't know. ]

blah

pummeled the splitting of egos innit. Totally sucks tbh, Ruff tingz bludz

Learning to ignore the enlightened, wonder if they too preach because wisdom is incarceration... A bizzare map of sanity where the only way to cope witht he trauma is to point out the backwards concept that 'sleeping' people are not actually suffering. Poetry at it's finest to shout rhetoric/soliloquy unto deafened ears... gets meh... Like superman who twigged on 'great power comes great responsibility' - the one man mission of thought genuinely doesn't dabble/quantify 'power' and thus gotted no concepts of 'responsibility'. All it can live by is "a problem shared is a goblin spared" and my crock of gold ain't a crock o shittttttttttttttttttttttttttt

SEE YALL COOLIOS ON T'OTHER SIDE,
WISH U WER HER(e?)
Image

arts and nice words is what makes this mono reality stereo in our heads...
but if you are wrong about reality and imagine the traffic light is not what it is, you may live a crippled life afterward. it happened to so many...