No it is NOT OK. It goes against the UK Bass Music Standard Procedures and Practices Manual, page 420 line 69 and if you make the track you might get fined by the International Dubstep Foundation and have your producing priveleges revoked
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:49 am
by abZ
^ luckily I am in the us otherwise I am sure Goldie would have been sent to my house to push me down a flight of stairs a long time ago.
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:04 am
by graish
the tune in my sig is 143bpm, I would say its closer to jungle than anything else
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:34 am
by corpu5
i heard skream produces the dnb elements of some his tunes at 140, dunno if this is true though
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:17 am
by 4bstr4ck3r
hey here is one of my tracks. It is yeah... no strict genre name... an inbetween jungle/breakbeat/dnb style...
for you to know, the song is about free download, free culture, and is against a new french law that allows an organism to check if you're doing peer-to-peer, and now if you don't know how to use internet (with vpn or newsgroup), you are fined and can't access internet for a year ! (sorry for this off-topic talk)
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:23 am
by serox
Stupid question really.
You can make music at whatever tempo you like! do what sounds good!
Iv been making Dubstep at 150, 170. Sick of hearing hi hats at 140.
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:45 am
by In The Shadows
graish wrote:the tune in my sig is 143bpm, I would say its closer to jungle than anything else
its rockin proper jungle vibes
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:47 am
by paravrais
Never heard the term breakstep before but I'm guessing that it refers more to the jungly sounding garage tracks that sometimes spring up whereas the tune Sirius posted has a classic example of a breakbeat drum pattern.
Weird about the step suffix, people keep trying to add it onto things for no reason today and they forget/don't realise it used to mean something very different. Darkstep was around before Dubstep and now if you say it to people they think your talking about dark dubstep rather than noisia and folks
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:12 pm
by Sirius
paravrais wrote:Never heard the term breakstep before but I'm guessing that it refers more to the jungly sounding garage tracks that sometimes spring up whereas the tune Sirius posted has a classic example of a breakbeat drum pattern.
Weird about the step suffix, people keep trying to add it onto things for no reason today and they forget/don't realise it used to mean something very different. Darkstep was around before Dubstep and now if you say it to people they think your talking about dark dubstep rather than noisia and folks
well... i checked out breakstep, it was there before dubstep... its like its forerunner from garage.
funny how both of us never heard of it ah. guna have too follow the roots further back i guess!!
a bro of mine described it as... chill.... break... step. he doesnt know how close he was to the actual!!ahahah
!!chea
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:38 pm
by abZ
I consider Storming to be a breakstep label. Check Toastyboy and Dubchild. It's the stuff that brought me to this scene originally. Breakstep as a label has kinda faded but there is tons of it around still. I make some occasionally. You can check Sully, Reso from a few years ago... I don't even know if this relates to the op's tune I didn't get a chance to check it.
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:46 pm
by paravrais
Sirius wrote:
paravrais wrote:Never heard the term breakstep before but I'm guessing that it refers more to the jungly sounding garage tracks that sometimes spring up whereas the tune Sirius posted has a classic example of a breakbeat drum pattern.
Weird about the step suffix, people keep trying to add it onto things for no reason today and they forget/don't realise it used to mean something very different. Darkstep was around before Dubstep and now if you say it to people they think your talking about dark dubstep rather than noisia and folks
well... i checked out breakstep, it was there before dubstep... its like its forerunner from garage.
funny how both of us never heard of it ah. guna have too follow the roots further back i guess!!
a bro of mine described it as... chill.... break... step. he doesnt know how close he was to the actual!!ahahah
!!chea
Yeah wikipedia says this "Breakstep, or breakbeat garage" - Exactly what I thought.
apparently this is breakstep :\ not as jungly as I was expecting just sounds like breakbeat but a bit slower with a garage bassline to me
I still think your tune is breakbeat though :p
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:48 pm
by wormcode
paravrais wrote:Never heard the term breakstep before but I'm guessing that it refers more to the jungly sounding garage tracks that sometimes spring up whereas the tune Sirius posted has a classic example of a breakbeat drum pattern.
Weird about the step suffix, people keep trying to add it onto things for no reason today and they forget/don't realise it used to mean something very different. Darkstep was around before Dubstep and now if you say it to people they think your talking about dark dubstep rather than noisia and folks
I first started hearing/seeing the breakstep term in the early 2000s describing music from artists like Search & Destroy. I never really liked the name but it seemed appropriate enough for some tunes. That was really one of the first unofficial names I heard before it started getting ridiculoustep. Mostly it sounded like garage to me, but heading off into grime territory.
Still 2 of the baddest tunes.
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:28 pm
by paravrais
wormcode wrote:
paravrais wrote:Never heard the term breakstep before but I'm guessing that it refers more to the jungly sounding garage tracks that sometimes spring up whereas the tune Sirius posted has a classic example of a breakbeat drum pattern.
Weird about the step suffix, people keep trying to add it onto things for no reason today and they forget/don't realise it used to mean something very different. Darkstep was around before Dubstep and now if you say it to people they think your talking about dark dubstep rather than noisia and folks
I first started hearing/seeing the breakstep term in the early 2000s describing music from artists like Search & Destroy. I never really liked the name but it seemed appropriate enough for some tunes. That was really one of the first unofficial names I heard before it started getting ridiculoustep. Mostly it sounded like garage to me, but heading off into grime territory.
I didn't mean to include breakstep in the second paragraph of my post there, that was meant to be a seperate point about how the step suffix has become used now. I got that breakstep was a term used before dubstep from earlier in the thread. I am listening honest XD I just meant it's odd how there was 2step, darkstep, breakstep and then dubstep all very different genres of music and then now people keep trying to add step on the end of things to make their dubstep tracks sound more original.
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:32 pm
by serox
For the guys only just hearing Breakstep. Heres some badboys for you + some Dubstep following the same vibe.
wormcode wrote:
I first started hearing/seeing the breakstep term in the early 2000s describing music from artists like Search & Destroy. I never really liked the name but it seemed appropriate enough for some tunes. That was really one of the first unofficial names I heard before it started getting ridiculoustep. Mostly it sounded like garage to me, but heading off into grime territory.
Breakstep sounds like Garage? Breakstep is far as I know is tracks made from breaks with jungle influences, dark and loads of 808s and jungle snares/hats.
Garage is nothing like it.
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:54 pm
by paravrais
serox wrote:
wormcode wrote:
I first started hearing/seeing the breakstep term in the early 2000s describing music from artists like Search & Destroy. I never really liked the name but it seemed appropriate enough for some tunes. That was really one of the first unofficial names I heard before it started getting ridiculoustep. Mostly it sounded like garage to me, but heading off into grime territory.
Breakstep sounds like Garage? Breakstep is far as I know is tracks made from breaks with jungle influences, dark and loads of 808s and jungle snares/hats.
Garage is nothing like it.
Sure your not thinking of breakcore?
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:28 pm
by deadly_habit
see when i hear the term breakstep i think of stuff like boxcutter - brood or sunshine vip
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:24 pm
by mks
In addition to some of those Darqwan cuts the Serox posted, here are a couple of other Breakstep tunes that were in my crate back then:
Re: is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:29 pm
by deadly_habit
haha i was playing that double 99 plate the other day