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FSTZ wrote:

legend4ry wrote:Saying that though, good music seems to find me I don't really find it.

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Nah I didn't mean it like that, I just don't go out there looking for music it always seems to come into my life without me trying!

I took it as truth, because it is true

living in an age of technology is a double edged sword... amidst the thousands of new producers that are wet behind the ears and still learning, there is a large crop of producers that have been around before the computer revoloution that are using it to their advantage.

props out to everyone that used to record on a tascam portastudio!

legend4ry wrote:

FSTZ wrote:

legend4ry wrote:Saying that though, good music seems to find me I don't really find it.

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Nah I didn't mean it like that, I just don't go out there looking for music it always seems to come into my life without me trying!

me too! that's how it always happens. sometimes it's the most random stuff that strikes me. really vibing to this euphoric trance mix atm

serox wrote:

decklyn wrote:Hey guys
Been a while since I've posted anything here.
I'm just wondering what you think of the sound these days. Maybe I'm not digging hard enough but I'm hearing a lot of old time enthusiasts starting to say that dubstep has lost a lot of the qualities that we once loved about it so much. It's hard to take everthing that's going on right now and box it in, but I'm interested in hearing what you guys think.

So...
What do you think?

It lost it years ago. Massive, mid range killed it. Its all gone Techno and sounds like a bunch of VSTs stuck on a grid with random selected presets. Tracks have no vibe at all. Like what happened to DnB everyone has gone anal and now it is more about EQing and compressing the fuck out of thweir tracks. Where have the dynamics gone? where has the serious riddums gone? no vibe at all. The early producers were from Garage, Grime, Jungle and Dub backgrounds etc. Now I think they come from Trance, Techno and new style DnB?

As the music got popular the mainstream didnt know what to do or how to even dance to it. Majority of people into dance music dont have a clue how to dance to halftime beats so loads of producers started making things more danceable, simple.

I think you are so off point it isn't funny.

i agree serox is a very unfunny person it seems

I think that the genre had to evolve but it was always tough to satisfy both the elitist old skool lovers (I jest) and the wobble-junkies.....

serox hates music, it's his Thing and we all gotta have a Thing

on another note i thought the new eskmo album was pretty exciting and i quite like all this dubs n breaks stuff that's happening

Serox is cool, he's just passionate about vinyl and the early days of dubstep. nothing wrong with that

I think he represents a lot of peoples viewpoint

FSTZ wrote:Serox is cool, he's just passionate about vinyl and the early days of dubstep. nothing wrong with that

I think he represents a lot of peoples viewpoint

yeah when it blinds you into hatred of anything new then I do feel there is something wrong with it. I'm passionate about music too, but i prefer to focus on what I love instead of talking trap about how things are dying or being ruined. I open my ears up to everything and give it a chance, even if initially I don't like it.

not to diss you Serox, i've heard your mixes and they are badass. But being captain negative is clearly your Thing

lowpass wrote: Then just took a step back started listening to a whole load of new stuff across the board, some of the more atmospheric darker tunes (that attracted me to dubstep in the first place) and faith was restored.

we are in the golden era, right now, this is pinacle right here. What do you think was happening in 1995 through to 1999 within drum n bass? Tons of folks walking away from this overfast kiddy music they were hearing in the clubs they went to, on some level oblivious to the fact that Source Direct, Crystl, Boymerang etc were throwing out some of the most amazing uk music of all time. Its only when people look back only at their Photek and Lemon D records that they see an era of dnb where the music was excellent, they forget the endless hell of aphrodite tunes and m-beat on totp (no offense to people who love their cheese). Take a step back, focus, stick with whats real, keep the dail tuned to Youngsta on Rinse thursdays and enjoy the golden era of dubstep, because before you know it we will be 8 years down the line, theres gonna be new sounds on the block and we will be pulling out our old Krptic Minds plates saying 'fuck man, remember when dubstep this sick was getting played out'.

The qualities of dubstep are still there. They've just evolved a bit.

Guys like youngsta, kromestar, mala, coki, kode9, burial are all still on the same vibe. No qualities have been lost!

Don't get me wrong, the only thing I don't like is the younger generation is coming into the scene not knowing about the earlier stuff.

Either way, good music is good music! APPRICIATE IT!

Youngsta hasn't had a release for about 2 years?

We're Londoners, we've seen him play a fair bit in the past 2 years ha! Hes got a fair lot of unreleased stuff, he just needs to get his arse off and start releasing it!

FSTZ wrote:Serox is cool, he's just passionate about vinyl and the early days of dubstep. nothing wrong with that

I think he represents a lot of peoples viewpoint

This. And to the person who posted right after FSTZ:

Serox is a DJ. Ive heard his sets. The man still buys new wax. Bias against anytihng new? WTF... No... Tell that to the idiots still rinsing 3 yr old datscision breakthrough stuff.

And in regards to the whole thread!

Dubstep is just another set of boundries known as genres... The longer people dwell on hose boundries, the more innovation will occur within them, however, it will still be within them... Dubstep hasnt lost its uniqueness, because it hasnt, it may have shifted focus from some corners to others, but, that only shows progression, even if in directions you dont like, you cant say its 'losing its uniqueness' .... losing its vibe maybe, and Ill even almost aggree with you. But uniqueness.. nonsense.

Audio Doughnuts wrote:We're Londoners, we've seen him play a fair bit in the past 2 years ha! Hes got a fair lot of unreleased stuff, he just needs to get his arse off and start releasing it!

You know what, in the 5 years ive been into this sound, I have never seen youngsta play out. There seems to be a curse of when younx plays and me attending.

AMEN basic A.

legend4ry wrote:

Audio Doughnuts wrote:We're Londoners, we've seen him play a fair bit in the past 2 years ha! Hes got a fair lot of unreleased stuff, he just needs to get his arse off and start releasing it!

You know what, in the 5 years ive been into this sound, I have never seen youngsta play out. There seems to be a curse of when younx plays and me attending.

AHA, i had the same curse ones mate! it was ridiculous....was supposed to see him on about 4 different occasions, each of them flopped! then finally decided that public transport is not a good idea when going to see youngsta.

he bringggggs the pressure though!!

lowpass wrote:It also didn't help the fact that I listened to dubstep exclusively for a period of about 6 months, what a way to get sick of a genre

Interestingly, I've been listening to dubstep almost non-stop going on 2 years now and am yet to get bored - as I listen to so much different dubstep (from your midrange "crack" to the really deep stuff like breakage and kryptic minds, right up to your more experimental). I've found I never get bored of it. I'm also getting more into the more glitchy side of dubstep which is very cool

I think the peek of it was horsepower productions! I still can't find anything that really sounds like some of their tunes, a el-b song that comes to mind is probably the closest.

Basic A wrote: This. And to the person who posted right after FSTZ:

Serox is a DJ. Ive heard his sets. The man still buys new wax. Bias against anytihng new? WTF... No... Tell that to the idiots still rinsing 3 yr old datscision breakthrough stuff.

yeah well the difference is i'm not seeing these datscision kids repeatedly talk about how the scene "lost it years ago". I'd rather see Serox do a mix over those guys any day, but he is still Mr Negative. I'm not judging, I just think it's a shame because music excites me a lot and I wish more people would feel the same way!