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Re: half-time, dark garage & the future of Loefah
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:47 pm
by GRAYSKALE
pompende wrote:i don't think
that you have any fucking clue
what you are talking about.
breakstep didn't spring up in 2006.
and if loefah were to make anything now
wouldn't it be funky?
You seem almost willfully ignorant.
and pretending that you're writing a poem
every second of your life
is the stupidest
most narcissistic
thing I could ever imagine.
Mate this is some of the best poetry I've read in a while; when you publishing?
Seriously though, wtf is "post-breakstep"?
Nevermind a reincarnation of it?
Re: half-time, dark garage & the future of Loefah
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:10 pm
by mashmash
sd5 wrote:Be nice if some people could distinguish succinct prose from poetry.
I thought the question was quite clear whilst leaving space for interpretation but I'll waste a few words to explain:
Loefah's coming out here for 3rd (?) time soon, playing with Breakage.
I appreciate his early stuff, such as Bombay Squad, which I think of as after breakstep
but last time here (08?) he was the first to play relentlessness.
I understand he lost interest in ds for awhile so I'm wondering, particularly in company with Breakage,
whether his set could rep the earlier sound or at least go deep & garagey.
Of recent gigs, imo, this one has potential to reset the aggenda.
a lot of people have been saying his sets are more house orientated recently
i think this is more likely to carry on than with the breakier stuff
Re: half-time, dark garage & the future of Loefah
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:16 pm
by yong
where can I hear his new stuff anyways? I keep on hearing about his "new mix" and all that.
Re: half-time, dark garage & the future of Loefah
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:34 pm
by pompende
yong wrote:where can I hear his new stuff anyways? I keep on hearing about his "new mix" and all that.
http://www.dubstepforum.com/loefah-mix- ... 64305.html
Re: half-time, dark garage & the future of Loefah
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:25 am
by nousd
thanks for the feedback & ^ mix
I've had a nap & a wash
& now feel a bit hypocritical cos i value clear communication
but I needed some input into half-formulated ideas
about loefah's progress being influential
& where that might draw from
Re: half-time, dark garage & the future of Loefah
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:04 am
by nousd
ah, now I have a bit of time, I'll comment on this:
pompende wrote:i don't think
that you have any fucking clue
what you are talking about.
breakstep didn't spring up in 2006.
and if loefah were to make anything now
wouldn't it be funky?
You seem almost willfully ignorant.
and pretending that you're writing a poem
every second of your life
is the stupidest
most narcissistic
thing I could ever imagine.
It's very clear what you mean because of the format
so I'll take that as a compliment
but I don't understand how you drew the inference
that i thought breakstep sprung up in 2006
when Loefah's dubstep releases in 04 obviously predate that
and built on turn of the century breaks/garage cross-influences.
Just as you expect Loefah to be making funky,
so i hope he will revisit dark garage/early dubstep sounds.
I don't pretend to write poetry but i do sometimes pretend to be willfully ignorant,
particularly if it stirs the grumpy & closed-minded.
And I reserve the right to suggest an idea without fully prescribing it
cos interaction/ conversation is about giving my mind a chance to change.
Maybe it's like putting out a riff or outlining a tune & seeing what others do with it.
I can imagine that poets can't avoid writing poetically
despite people calling them pretentious.
Must be like composers trying not to hear music
Re: Loefah's potential to reinvigorate dubstep
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:56 am
by ST100
lmao shut the fuck up sd5, you're a joke.
Re: Loefah's potential to reinvigorate dubstep
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:31 am
by nousd
have a good lie down mate.
so, back on topic;
if Loefah's playing at an oestensibly dubstep/grime night
is he really gunna play house?
or does he have another transformation in store?
Re: What's Loefah's take on dubstep nowdays?
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:58 am
by twentz
Why don't you just check out his tunes and judge what he actually drops instead of trying to divine his next moves like he's some extra-human esoteric prophet?
Re: What's Loefah's take on dubstep nowdays?
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:02 am
by Phigure
twentz wrote:Why don't you just check out his tunes and judge what he actually drops instead of trying to divine his next moves like he's some extra-human esoteric prophet?
but
its loefah
i'm definitely with you though, sd5. some moody future garage with a loefah spin would be magic
Re: half-time, dark garage & the future of Loefah
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:12 am
by ghandi
dutty_switch wrote:Not sure exactly what you mean, Sounds like you're basicaly after Mud with a skippy 2-step beat underneath it. I'm probably wrong though.
what about this?
Soundcloud
Love this tune!
@sd5
Loefah's set
Last DMZ
Was rather good
So mate you should
Just go on the night
It'll be alright
Re: What's Loefah's take on dubstep nowdays?
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:06 pm
by joeki
Loefah doesn't compromise so yeah even if the rest of the bill is 'traditional' dubstep, you can expect house/funky beats for the best part of the set.
it's usually around the 120-130-135 bpm's I'd say so it's danceable and there's still a lot of bass. I absolutely like it.
If you're lucky enough he might finish with an old DMZ/Tectonic plate of his
Martelo Rethink is usually his closer now though.
Re: half-time, dark garage & the future of Loefah
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:53 pm
by AntlionUK
feral witchchild wrote:mashmash wrote:leave sd5 ALONE!!!
Re: half-time, dark garage & the future of Loefah
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:59 pm
by fractal
AntlionUK wrote:feral witchchild wrote:mashmash wrote:leave sd5 ALONE!!!
Lol, you guys!
Sorry if I came off harsh, sd, but what you call "left open for interpretation" felt just like "vagueness for sake of pseudo-intellectualism" imho
On the real tho, loefah has always said that he doesn't really like garage, so don't hold your breath for some "future" garage...
His boiler room set is fantastic, if you haven't checked it out
http://www.readplatform.com/boiler-room ... -jon-rust/
Re: What's Loefah's take on dubstep nowdays?
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:05 pm
by fairieswearboots
listen to the B.Low Barcelona set, that'll give you a good idea of Loefah's recent sets and sound,
He is one of the most exciting DJ's at the moment as his sound is reflective of his tastes and his label output,
He's not stuck in one sound and it seems weird to expect that he would play Jah War/Ruffage/heavy halfstep sound for ever?
Re: What's Loefah's take on dubstep nowdays?
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:11 pm
by dutty_switch
fairieswearboots wrote:listen to the B.Low Barcelona set, that'll give you a good idea of Loefah's recent sets and sound,
He is one of the most exciting DJ's at the moment as his sound is reflective of his tastes and his label output,
He's not stuck in one sound and it seems weird to expect that he would play Jah War/Ruffage/heavy halfstep sound for ever?
That B.Low birthday set is sweet. I got it on CD in the car. Never gets old.
Re: What's Loefah's take on dubstep nowdays?
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:45 pm
by JensMadsen
As i understand he's very much into uk funky these days. My mates who heard him at outlook told me so and his newest mix also sounds that way. Would like it better if he keeps to his old style, but you can't hate on somebody just because their style changes.
Re: What's Loefah's take on dubstep nowdays?
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:50 pm
by geoff
There is very little relationship between Loefah's house sets and uk funky apart from the odd tune. He's is carving out something that is quite different to my ears.
Re: What's Loefah's take on dubstep nowdays?
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:57 pm
by dutty_switch
The Swamp81 sound that Loefah is pushing has more in common with 80's electro boogie like Arabian Prince, Africa Bambaataa etc than funky in my opinion. His set at Outlook was amazing. Whatever he plays, I doubt you'll be disappointed.
Re: What's Loefah's take on dubstep nowdays?
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:12 pm
by charliefoy
He's a bit of a mystery isn't he. Read his interview with Kryptic Minds on Blackdowns blog. Takes about an hour to read but its really really interesting.