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Re: production depression

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:05 pm
by stereotactic
I get production depression but it has nothing to do with what your talking about. For me it's all about how I personally feel about my tunes, and a lot of the time I get bummed on where I'm at with my ideas and my output into the world of music. Especially when my best friend makes some of the most amazing/original music I have ever heard, he has always been ten steps ahead of me with music as far as style and skill go, hes an amazing drummer electronic musician. To bad he never puts out his old shit, I honestly think he would explode in the hiphop scene if he ever put it out for people to hear.
Oh man, THIS.

My output is pretty much zero in terms of 'real' musical output, I play around and have fun for myself, and every track is better (I say every track, every... whatever it is I am doing, I never finish tracks, it's like a curse) but my mate is just insanely talented, he will chuck something new over and I will be like 'er... you did what now?'

This is made all the more annoying by his insistence that he isn't really that good, and that perhaps dubstep isn't really his thing, when he has just ripped out a disgusting bass frenzy straight in my face.

I hate him. Totally feel your pain man!

Re: production depression

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:59 pm
by Cubicle
Well I've been into music for quite some time now and played the drums when I was 14ish.
I've been screwing around with this Reason crack for a couple of months and it feels exactly like when I had my drums when I was younger.
I came home from a bad day of school and started to smash the shit out of it, when I had a good day I played really funky and happy melodies.

Same thing with my music right now, I get home and I sit behind my computer just randomly looking for things to feed my emotion of that current time.
However, I am far from producing anything that sounds decent to human ears (my dog seems to like it).

The thing is, I enjoy making music, I make it for myself to help me remember that I'm alive.
I smiled bigger then I've ever smiled before when I had a positive feedback on my latest WIP because I didn't expect it.

Now what my point really is is that you shouldn't be thinking too much of what people actually think of your music as long as you enjoy making it you're doing great!

Re: production depression

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:07 pm
by narcissus
stereotactic wrote:
I get production depression but it has nothing to do with what your talking about. For me it's all about how I personally feel about my tunes, and a lot of the time I get bummed on where I'm at with my ideas and my output into the world of music. Especially when my best friend makes some of the most amazing/original music I have ever heard, he has always been ten steps ahead of me with music as far as style and skill go, hes an amazing drummer electronic musician. To bad he never puts out his old shit, I honestly think he would explode in the hiphop scene if he ever put it out for people to hear.
Oh man, THIS.

My output is pretty much zero in terms of 'real' musical output, I play around and have fun for myself, and every track is better (I say every track, every... whatever it is I am doing, I never finish tracks, it's like a curse) but my mate is just insanely talented, he will chuck something new over and I will be like 'er... you did what now?'

This is made all the more annoying by his insistence that he isn't really that good, and that perhaps dubstep isn't really his thing, when he has just ripped out a disgusting bass frenzy straight in my face.

I hate him. Totally feel your pain man!
oops :oops: i think i'm this guy to some of my friends... not saying i'm insanely talented.. i don't think i'm that good.. but it doesn't take me more than 15 seconds w/ operator to get the filth-heads in my life going :o :o

n i'm just like :twisted:

Re: production depression

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:22 pm
by unwind
Put it this way mate.
Whether people listen to or like your music means fuck all. The only people I ever show my tunes to are my best mates, and very very rarely the people on soundcloud... And I have... 134 projects at the moment. 80% are unfinished. This is because I make one, get bored, start another, get bored with that, start another one, get bored with that... But the next one is one that I know that if I had the right stuff, and the time, I could make it so, so, so much better. So I keep that one in a separate folder. I've got about 9 tunes in this folder. And all of these tunes are the result of me feeling like shit, because of something that's happened or something someone's done to me... When I feel like that, I make the best of my music, because that's when all the emotion and passion comes out.

It's times like those you're experiencing when I go to this folder, and I listen, and I think, "man, I really do think I could make it." I mean, it hardly hurts to think a little higher of yourself every so often, does it?

Try it - go through your tunes and I guarantee you that there will be some that really hit you and push you onwards... And if there aren't, maybe you just need to find the right source of inspiration... Try watching some films that you can really get emotionally involved in, or even play some games that open up your mind, then try making a tune.

Re: production depression

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:24 pm
by the get down
Siderealdb wrote:Sometimes it does feel comparable to showing someone a picture of your newborn son, only to have them quickly walk away with no comment.
haha well said

Re: production depression

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:54 pm
by iamallthings
i've taken to the mindset that the depression is a sign of progression, because as i become further developed as an artist/engineer, my standard is constantly evolving toward the next level for myself.

i think the day i stop kicking the shit out of myself will be when i'll have peaked in my potential.

Re: production depression

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:18 pm
by promo
You guys use the word 'depression' as a description like its going out of fashion lol. Put it this way if you had 'depression' then its quite possible you wouldn't actually make music at all because you'd feeling nothing! Now imagine that for a moment. I'd say at best you're feeling down but 'depression' that's a different kettle of fish lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_%28mood

Re: production depression

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:17 pm
by Swanwickk
promo wrote:You guys use the word 'depression' as a description like its going out of fashion lol. Put it this way if you had 'depression' then its quite possible you wouldn't actually make music at all because you'd feeling nothing! Now imagine that for a moment. I'd say at best you're feeling down but 'depression' that's a different kettle of fish lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_%28mood
yeah i guess depression is a little extreme an expression

Re: production depression

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:44 pm
by AllNightDayDream
I rarely live up to my own expectations. I'll obsess over the quality of my tracks and simply get depressed when I can't finish the idea or achieve something, especially engineering wise. That's why I don't have any tracks out, I just keep working on them because I know I will feel like utter shit if it is anything less than mind-blowingly perfect (in my tastes) when people hear it. That way, even if they don't like it, I love it. I have a clear vision, but it feels like i'm trekking through snow up to my belly to get there.

Re: production depression

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:51 pm
by Siderealdb
Swanwickk wrote:
promo wrote:You guys use the word 'depression' as a description like its going out of fashion lol. Put it this way if you had 'depression' then its quite possible you wouldn't actually make music at all because you'd feeling nothing! Now imagine that for a moment. I'd say at best you're feeling down but 'depression' that's a different kettle of fish lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_%28mood
yeah i guess depression is a little extreme an expression
Like many terms in the English language, this one has a few different definitions. I don't think anyone was referring to the clinical description of depression in any of these posts, rather just implying a state of feeling sad.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/depression

Re: production depression

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:27 am
by jaydot
Basically every track I produce and "release" on Soundcloud or whatever is part of the learning cuve, it's another buidling block. If people give me positive feedback or even negative constructive criticism I've learned something for that day. :)

Re: production depression

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:54 am
by Ldizzy
read some stuff, go out, talk to people, meet some friends, make love, get angry, drink juice, read ur e-friends and foes posts, say thanks to some one and say fuck you to some one, fall deeply in love with a new artists work, litteraly fuck someone, feel stuff...

then do music like u do that stuff...

theres an important difference between making music and doing music, the two can & need to coexist. if u loose one it gets painful.

Re: production depression

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:59 am
by johnkimble
i guess i have a level of that

tried to produce for months. it usually goes like this: i make a loop. i make somethin bigger outta that loop. then i think its pure shit and work on another one. i make a loop. think it sounds fucking boring. i cant get anything that sounds moving and rolling like d1 beats or downlinks ghost, even that simple beat has got some energy
tried to make some shit at 110bpm - really liked it at first - made a proper tune out of it - 2 hours later i think it sounds like bricks being put into a blender with 666 cats and hockey pucks...

Re: production depression

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:14 pm
by rekstep
so many people make dubstep nowadays so u have to think wat could set u apart from others , new idea sumthing different i guess its also time to u cant expect to be making good tracks all the time and for everytrack to go sum where .... do a track send it out / watever and move right on keep going idea ideas ...???????

is dubstep really that hard to make.? apart from learning about ur daw compression etc , if u listen to enough dub it should just flow out ??? well for me it does anyways ,

hope things works out for you

Re: production depression

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:09 am
by back2onett
I just don't care about music anymore, never liked it much in the first place anyway.

Re: production depression

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:00 pm
by oli90
I had this like a year ago. I was producing dubstep and found I was trying too hard to just fit in that genre, I realised I had a lot more fun making music when I first started out and just made what I thought sounded good.

Re: production depression

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:22 pm
by jaimelee
I get it frequently when I produce any sort of genre.
Recently when I started to make Dubstep, I realised it will be quite difficult to create something original.
In the end, I enjoy making music and watching how it affects people around me.
Recently created a track in the 140 bpm region just to help a friend relax in times of stress.
Others got their hands on it and came back to say how chill they felt.
Don't give up on it, just keep at it for yourself and eventually others will notice mate!
:W:

Re: production depression

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:50 am
by Swanwickk
rekstep wrote:so many people make dubstep nowadays so u have to think wat could set u apart from others , new idea sumthing different i guess its also time to u cant expect to be making good tracks all the time and for everytrack to go sum where .... do a track send it out / watever and move right on keep going idea ideas ...???????

is dubstep really that hard to make.? apart from learning about ur daw compression etc , if u listen to enough dub it should just flow out ??? well for me it does anyways ,

hope things works out for you
It's not really about the my production skills, tbh I think I know most of the stuff there is to know, and some of the tunes i'm turning out sound pretty good, its the whole, spend ages on it, and then nothing happens thing really. But I guess if i keep on improving, by the time i'm 18 i'll be really good, well at the rate i'm improving atm 8)

Re: production depression

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:51 pm
by +3
The gloomier my mood, the deeper my music... Sadness permeates my material... That's not what you were talking about, but thats my production depression. I've accepted it.