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Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:20 pm
by Basic A
dj stick wrote:Been in love with its sound since I first heard it. Was never able to find where to buy one. :(
They run juuuust over 8,000$ American, you sure your still lookin to buy? :lol:

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:25 pm
by TherapyBE
Say wut !? Back when I looked it was about 1000 euros iirc. What makes it so pricey btw ?

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:55 pm
by Dub_Fiend
They're custom-built by a Swiss company (made by hand) and there are a limited amount of hang drums made per year so it's kind of a status symbol, collector's item and musical instrument rolled into one :3

Oh, I managed to get a hold of that Tonehammer sample pack mentioned on the previous page btw and was thoroughly disappointed :( Really not the kind of sound I was looking for, the tone isn't clear at all and it wasn't in the right scale (that I wanted at least) so I'll keep looking...

There is a free hang drum iPhone app, so I might be forced to record the line-out from my iPhone into Cubase or something, either sample the hits or just record the melody in :) If I manage to do that then I'll pack up the samples and post them here (since the app is free I reckon it should be cool to do that... I think lol) :D


Dub Fiend

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:58 pm
by mks
No Basic is just looking at the price some dude on ebay has listed. Probably because of the fact that they are really rare and hard to find in the States. It sounds like you can only buy those from the company in person at their shop in Switzerland. You should hop in a car or train and head over there. But double check that they have some available, according to some website they weren't making any at all in 2009 and they don't make very many in general, hence their price. You have to be put on a waiting list but I heard the price should be about 1200 - 1500 Euros.

I just discovered these from this thread, and am surprised that I hadn't heard of them yet. I would love to play one of these. I play the Udu drum and it seems like one of these would fit my style.

EZ

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:23 pm
by Basic A
mks wrote:No Basic is just looking at the price some dude on ebay has listed. Probably because of the fact that they are really rare and hard to find in the States. It sounds like you can only buy those from the company in person at their shop in Switzerland. You should hop in a car or train and head over there. But double check that they have some available, according to some website they weren't making any at all in 2009 and they don't make very many in general, hence their price. You have to be put on a waiting list but I heard the price should be about 1200 - 1500 Euros.

I just discovered these from this thread, and am surprised that I hadn't heard of them yet. I would love to play one of these. I play the Udu drum and it seems like one of these would fit my style.

EZ
None in stock, why I was quoting the Ebay price, only one I could find online for sale :wink:

Id really like to have a few minutes to get a good examination of one done... I know an old head here who makes steel drums and hand hammered cymbals for spare cash on the side of being a Blacksmith, Im sure he couldnt do perfect, but Id be willing to bet I could get one made...

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:24 pm
by Dub_Fiend
Basic A wrote:
mks wrote:No Basic is just looking at the price some dude on ebay has listed. Probably because of the fact that they are really rare and hard to find in the States. It sounds like you can only buy those from the company in person at their shop in Switzerland. You should hop in a car or train and head over there. But double check that they have some available, according to some website they weren't making any at all in 2009 and they don't make very many in general, hence their price. You have to be put on a waiting list but I heard the price should be about 1200 - 1500 Euros.

I just discovered these from this thread, and am surprised that I hadn't heard of them yet. I would love to play one of these. I play the Udu drum and it seems like one of these would fit my style.

EZ
None in stock, why I was quoting the Ebay price, only one I could find online for sale :wink:

Id really like to have a few minutes to get a good examination of one done... I know an old head here who makes steel drums and hand hammered cymbals for spare cash on the side of being a Blacksmith, Im sure he couldnt do perfect, but Id be willing to bet I could get one made...
Pretty sure you can get the measurements for one online if you're really interested... If this guy is such a pro (as you say he is ;)) then he should be able to work offa that right?


Dub Fiend

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:26 pm
by Basic A
Dub Fiend wrote:
Basic A wrote:
mks wrote:No Basic is just looking at the price some dude on ebay has listed. Probably because of the fact that they are really rare and hard to find in the States. It sounds like you can only buy those from the company in person at their shop in Switzerland. You should hop in a car or train and head over there. But double check that they have some available, according to some website they weren't making any at all in 2009 and they don't make very many in general, hence their price. You have to be put on a waiting list but I heard the price should be about 1200 - 1500 Euros.

I just discovered these from this thread, and am surprised that I hadn't heard of them yet. I would love to play one of these. I play the Udu drum and it seems like one of these would fit my style.

EZ
None in stock, why I was quoting the Ebay price, only one I could find online for sale :wink:

Id really like to have a few minutes to get a good examination of one done... I know an old head here who makes steel drums and hand hammered cymbals for spare cash on the side of being a Blacksmith, Im sure he couldnt do perfect, but Id be willing to bet I could get one made...
Pretty sure you can get the measurements for one online if you're really interested... If this guy is such a pro (as you say he is ;)) then he should be able to work offa that right?


Dub Fiend
Measurements arent gonna tell you much, you need to look at hammering technique, composition of the metal (hardest part because the company has some sort of treatment process for the steel they are guarding pretty heavily), ect.

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:35 pm
by Dub_Fiend
Basic A wrote:
Dub Fiend wrote:
Basic A wrote:
mks wrote:No Basic is just looking at the price some dude on ebay has listed. Probably because of the fact that they are really rare and hard to find in the States. It sounds like you can only buy those from the company in person at their shop in Switzerland. You should hop in a car or train and head over there. But double check that they have some available, according to some website they weren't making any at all in 2009 and they don't make very many in general, hence their price. You have to be put on a waiting list but I heard the price should be about 1200 - 1500 Euros.

I just discovered these from this thread, and am surprised that I hadn't heard of them yet. I would love to play one of these. I play the Udu drum and it seems like one of these would fit my style.

EZ
None in stock, why I was quoting the Ebay price, only one I could find online for sale :wink:

Id really like to have a few minutes to get a good examination of one done... I know an old head here who makes steel drums and hand hammered cymbals for spare cash on the side of being a Blacksmith, Im sure he couldnt do perfect, but Id be willing to bet I could get one made...
Pretty sure you can get the measurements for one online if you're really interested... If this guy is such a pro (as you say he is ;)) then he should be able to work offa that right?


Dub Fiend
Measurements arent gonna tell you much, you need to look at hammering technique, composition of the metal (hardest part because the company has some sort of treatment process for the steel they are guarding pretty heavily), ect.
Ahh yeah... Hmm, well how would you be able to tell what kind of metal/treatment is used by looking at it? Or is that the kind of natural talent-thing you learn how to do as a blacksmith?


Dub Fiend

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:37 pm
by mks
I did find these: http://www.hapitones.com/

Made in the US, not as nice sounding as the Hang Drums IMO, but def playable and at a much nicer price.

EZ

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:39 pm
by Basic A
Hapi's are totally different instruments I thought?

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:42 pm
by Dub_Fiend
Basic A wrote:Hapi's are totally different instruments I thought?
Yeah, same principle (kinda) but different tone... HAPI drums have tabs cut into the metal that you tap/hit, whereas hang drums have pots or 'dings' to hit :)

btw Basic, I just looked on Wikipedia and apparently the hang drum is made from nitrided steel :) Check it out; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_(musical_instrument)


Dub Fiend

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:45 pm
by mks
Basic A wrote:Hapi's are totally different instruments I thought?
They are similar in the fact that they are tuned to a scale and made of steel, but different in the fact that Hapi's are cut and are modeled after cut log drums or wooden drums while the steel in hang drums are pounded like the traditional steel drums.

Edit: Dub Fiend beat me to it, but yeah.

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:29 am
by 3za
Dub Fiend wrote:
Basic A wrote:
Dub Fiend wrote:
Basic A wrote:
mks wrote:No Basic is just looking at the price some dude on ebay has listed. Probably because of the fact that they are really rare and hard to find in the States. It sounds like you can only buy those from the company in person at their shop in Switzerland. You should hop in a car or train and head over there. But double check that they have some available, according to some website they weren't making any at all in 2009 and they don't make very many in general, hence their price. You have to be put on a waiting list but I heard the price should be about 1200 - 1500 Euros.

I just discovered these from this thread, and am surprised that I hadn't heard of them yet. I would love to play one of these. I play the Udu drum and it seems like one of these would fit my style.

EZ
None in stock, why I was quoting the Ebay price, only one I could find online for sale :wink:

Id really like to have a few minutes to get a good examination of one done... I know an old head here who makes steel drums and hand hammered cymbals for spare cash on the side of being a Blacksmith, Im sure he couldnt do perfect, but Id be willing to bet I could get one made...
Pretty sure you can get the measurements for one online if you're really interested... If this guy is such a pro (as you say he is ;)) then he should be able to work offa that right?


Dub Fiend
Measurements arent gonna tell you much, you need to look at hammering technique, composition of the metal (hardest part because the company has some sort of treatment process for the steel they are guarding pretty heavily), ect.
Ahh yeah... Hmm, well how would you be able to tell what kind of metal/treatment is used by looking at it? Or is that the kind of natural talent-thing you learn how to do as a blacksmith?


Dub Fiend
If you tried to make one, I don't think the metals they used is going to be your main problem. The main problem I can see is the tuning, you will need to get all your tuning ratios work out, then be able to accurately machine/hammer them. With out the correct tunings it will be pretty useless, even with the best sounding materials.

A HAPI would be slightly easy to make as it's cut, and not hammared. So you can get a much better accuracy of the tunings, but you will still have to work out the tunings (length X width X depth of material x = pitch)

You should see what he can do. Even if he don't make you anything like a Hang, you could end up with a one off instrument, even more unique.

btw the poor man's DIY percussion ain't to bad...


:mrgreen:

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:26 am
by gnome

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:43 am
by Basic A
3za wrote:The main problem I can see is the tuning, you will need to get all your tuning ratios work out, then be able to accurately machine/hammer them. With out the correct tunings it will be pretty useless, even with the best sounding materials.

A HAPI would be slightly easy to make as it's cut, and not hammared. So you can get a much better accuracy of the tunings, but you will still have to work out the tunings (length X width X depth of material x = pitch)
Mmm, but, I can get things hammered with pretty good skill, thats what i was saying, makes steel pans already :wink: but its a matter of getting a good view of the techniques used first.

And I saw the propane tank thing, its a Hapi, not a Hang.

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:09 am
by Dub_Fiend
Basic A wrote:
3za wrote:The main problem I can see is the tuning, you will need to get all your tuning ratios work out, then be able to accurately machine/hammer them. With out the correct tunings it will be pretty useless, even with the best sounding materials.

A HAPI would be slightly easy to make as it's cut, and not hammared. So you can get a much better accuracy of the tunings, but you will still have to work out the tunings (length X width X depth of material x = pitch)
Mmm, but, I can get things hammered with pretty good skill, thats what i was saying, makes steel pans already :wink: but its a matter of getting a good view of the techniques used first.

And I saw the propane tank thing, its a Hapi, not a Hang.
It's still fucking sick though :P I'd happily have a HAPI if it was like that ;)


Dub Fiend

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:25 pm
by mks
I went down to one of the local drum shops this afternoon, and wouldn't you know it, they had two Hapi's sitting right there so I got my hands on one today.

Just as I thought, it totally suits my style. Would love to get my hands on a hang drum but that's a long shot.

EZ

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:36 pm
by Kochari
gnome wrote:Build one!

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to- ... Hank-Drum/

It don't sound too bad
My friendds brother has one of these.

Lovely :)

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:47 pm
by Dub_Fiend
Kochari wrote:
gnome wrote:Build one!

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to- ... Hank-Drum/

It don't sound too bad
My friendds brother has one of these.

Lovely :)
Lucky bastard ;)


Dub Fiend

Re: Hang Drum - Anyone got any samples?

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:56 pm
by gnome
Dub Fiend wrote: Lucky bastard ;)


Dub Fiend
Build one!