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xx773xx wrote:as an aside to the OP's question, I've been meaning to ask how harmful limiting EVERYTHING in your mix is. It's nice to see no peaks/clips in the recording of the master track, but I'm severely cutting down my dynamic range correct? It took a while for me to notice, but it sure sounds like the mix is very one-dimensional.

Hope I didn't go too far off track.

a little bit of limiting is ok

if its affecting the sound of your biggest transient than its too much

with decent levels you shouldn't need to clip more than a few db off your peaks to get an acceptable loudness level

xx773xx wrote:as an aside to the OP's question, I've been meaning to ask how harmful limiting EVERYTHING in your mix is. It's nice to see no peaks/clips in the recording of the master track, but I'm severely cutting down my dynamic range correct? It took a while for me to notice, but it sure sounds like the mix is very one-dimensional.

Hope I didn't go too far off track.

i just want to get something straight here. are you saying that you have limited every single track, presumably to stop them from clipping? do you mean to tell us that every single sound in your song is peaking almost constantly at 0db?

a) i never want to hear that song.
b) you absolutely need to put everything down right now and start reading that mixing and mastering thread.

If your resampling your bass try to pan the mids and highs of it away from your snare a little. I find a good general rule with separation is to exhaust any volume or panning possibilities before resorting to eq.

big fan of limiting the piss out of things that don't need dynamic range, so that the drums can punch through.

Sharmaji wrote:big fan of limiting the piss out of things that don't need dynamic range, so that the drums can punch through.

what types of things in your opinion don't need dynamic range?

Thx for your answers, you've helped me a lot. =)

Alby D wrote:

Brisance wrote:Best thing is to sidechain an EQ band of the bass to the snare, so only for the duration of the snare, room in the spectrum is created for it.

How do you apply a sidechain to just affect a particular frequency range? I'm lookin through logic's multipressor but can't find a sidechain feature. can anyone shed some light?

Whoops, forgot most of the people are using inferior DAWs(ie not FL)

Brisance wrote:

Alby D wrote:

Brisance wrote:Best thing is to sidechain an EQ band of the bass to the snare, so only for the duration of the snare, room in the spectrum is created for it.

How do you apply a sidechain to just affect a particular frequency range? I'm lookin through logic's multipressor but can't find a sidechain feature. can anyone shed some light?

Whoops, forgot most of the people are using inferior DAWs(ie not FL)

Control signal routing in Fl is probably my favorite thing about it, haven't used another DAW that can even compare IMO.

monte-m wrote:

Sharmaji wrote:big fan of limiting the piss out of things that don't need dynamic range, so that the drums can punch through.

what types of things in your opinion don't need dynamic range?

pads n that?
suppose it's very much tune specific, but there's usually a few elements in a track that don't need punch.
nice idea, gonna try that!

Try not making mid-range cack, and you'll be fine.

Seriously though, layer snares that don't overlap familiar frequencies your bass is using.

Roll off under where your low snare hits lowest (around 150-200). If you want it to hit lower, then consider layering a kick.

Make cuts in your bass at where these snares hit. That will instantly create better results.

Maybe, try panning your snares slightly, whilst keeping your bass mono and centred.

Use sidechain, on either freqs on just volume of the bass.

Experiment and use your ears.

one possible help that hasnt been mentioned is the possibility of retuning your snare to get it to fit nicer.