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i dont think its so much about rhythmic energy to be honest, i think its about atmosphere

to be fair to dubstep people actually do bust a move and there's a lot more energy than a lot of nights i've been to. and more people who seem to know how to move as well. all important.

if you're not sure follow my lead. if you want an advance class - talk to my mate jonny.

Spaceboy wrote:can't really compare the two scenes.

but bwoy...when the mandem were dropping some oldskool g there was a vibe i hadn't seen for time...

can't forget the ROOTS!

Been playing mostly garage out lately - definitely proper party music. And of course the ladies dig it - noice

I mean I like dubstep'n'all but a few less moody tunes and a bit more slink goes a long way. Enough of the grumpy bloke music already

Don't really want to be listening to too much darkness now the weather's getting good. I do get a pit annoyed that anything that isn't solemn, crushing darkness is seen as "cheesy". Cotti's got a well nice, female vocal tune I heard at Streamizm the other night that I think will bridge the gap nicely - heavy bass and fine singing - I'll see if I can find out what it's called but really hits you over the head in the current climate.

that emotions tune is pretty heavy, but listen to it a bit more closely and it sounds like geenius had been listening to the cure and the cause a lot at the time...

house music as a genre is massive and theres something in there for everybody..

Got to agree that the word funky house turns me off something shocking. From what I can tell it's a genre that has it's heights set on having the most popular track on a Sky music channel. I could be wrong as I know little about it, but it seems like Hip Hop, in that the credible stuff is outweighed by the commercial shit to the extent where to say you likeed it in a record shop would end up in getting handed 20 50 Cent & Eminem clones (or the Funky House equivalent of them two)

I rate some of the Deep House tracks in my collection as some of the best tunes I've got, but there are many tracks of that style that bore me. My point is is that you would resumably have to dig a lot harder to unearth the really good Funky House tunes than you would in many other scenes.

Though of course this is pure guesswork

pretty much every genre is like that though. there are bare shit records everywhere

jokes that Femme Fatale is playing tech house nowadays! really weird. this mix is pretty sick so far though...

Shonky wrote:Cotti's got a well nice, female vocal tune I heard at Streamizm the other night that I think will bridge the gap nicely - heavy bass and fine singing - I'll see if I can find out what it's called but really hits you over the head in the current climate.

Murky Water probably.

boomnoise wrote:to be fair to dubstep people actually do bust a move and there's a lot more energy than a lot of nights i've been to. and more people who seem to know how to move as well. all important.

if you're not sure follow my lead.

imagine that, not just a whole club full of people wearing Boomnoise masks, but actually dancing like him too.

U really can't compare the two scenes thats nonsensical. two totally different crowds and probably age groups.

its just good the uk has got some decent sounds coming through.

still nothing like 94/95 jungle - that was just IMMENSE.

ThinKing wrote:have a listen: http://www.myspace.com/geeneus

could be worse imo.

how?

its alright, sure. but isnt this a bit of a retrograde step? its exactly the kind of predictable and boring dance music that made me appreciate the finer points of dnb back in 96/97, and more recently, dubstep.

even saying girls like it is a bit of a crap generalisation. i know wplenty of women who hate funky house.

its pretty bait funky house is gonna become really popular its got something for everyone... im hearing those latino-house type rythms everywhere and plus its something u wanna dance to instantly, aint like dubstep where u got to concentrate on how exactly ur gonna dance lol

Havent downloaded the Cotti & Clue Streamizm yet but I know Cluekid &/or Cotti have done at least 2 tunes with Arorah, who works very closely with them. The more well known one is Murky Waters, and has the chorus "and now there's nothing less to say". Then there's 'Round 2' which has a bit of wailing before the drop.

Fuck that, no point me describing the lyrics to you as there currently on her Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/arorahvocals
http://www.arorah.funtigo.com/

More vocals are definitely welcome in dubstep, but keep it to phrases rather than verse chorus verse chorus

boomnoise wrote:

Shonky wrote:Cotti's got a well nice, female vocal tune I heard at Streamizm the other night that I think will bridge the gap nicely - heavy bass and fine singing - I'll see if I can find out what it's called but really hits you over the head in the current climate.

Murky Water probably.

Will have to find out. Actually asked Bert to call a reload for me cause I was so twatted on Tuesday. I think I did make a pathetic attempt at trigger-fingers but could barely move. Skunk and guinness is not the way towards vitality (music sounded amazing though). Big up the new C&C music factory

Shonky wrote:Skunk and guinness is not the way towards vitality

ive made that mistake many a time.

owengriffiths wrote:More vocals are definitely welcome in dubstep, but keep it to phrases rather than verse chorus verse chorus

i used to think this, but why not full vocals rather than just dubby ones? there is little more powerful than a quality vocal. emphasis on the quality. i guess its much harder to get right, so the general standard might be a little weak, but i dunno i think it'd be worth it for those classics. thats another thing i love about house (and garage), you get some serious vocals

who's gonna make Little Man for the dubstep generation?

the term funky house with regards to a lot of these night is that a lot of the djs coming from the old garage scene like marcus nasty and supa d are using this term... when in fact they are playing a mixture of deep and soulful and often electro tunes that are already big/ had full releases.

good to see west london's broken sound getting some seriously good exposure - after how many years! bigup the W10 crewwww

Quote: but why not full vocals rather than just dubby ones

i was referring to sing along 'phrases' as opposed to spoken word ones. Loefah's Root had a good Jamaican sample, but it's not as if the track would have been a failure without it. I reckon with full on verse chorus verse chorus it's very hard to get right in Dance music. Things need to be more repetitive, with certain phrases looped, etc. It has to be a more minimal approach to vocals than the one used by mainstream R&B.

In fact that was what a lot of Garage tracks did, give a dance music sensibility to those types of vocals. I mean, imagine what the Aliyah vocal from Stone Cold sounds like compared to the Groove Chronicles track

Spaceboy wrote:good to see west london's broken sound getting some seriously good exposure - after how many years! bigup the W10 crewwww

is it?
where apart from co-op? or am i being dumb?