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masterchief wrote:if you have 320 mp3s or wav files but you play them through i tunes does it convert them to aac? or is that different? will that affect quality when you burn a c.d ?

nah mate it used to do some weak shit like that.

dont think it does now....any wav downloads I put into it stay as the full 1411kbps Wav file...

You can change the importing setting in itunes as to what it imports stuff as and whether it converts it

manray wrote:FYI FLAC is lossless.

So a FLAC + WAV are 100% identical, bit for bit.

The only downside to flac is lack of player support.

As for playing out, I use MP3's. Anyone that thinks you can hear the difference between a 320kbps MP3 and a WAV on any club system is talking complete shite.

I agree with all of this and also go with 320 MP3s. They download quicker, take up less space and are far more practical. No one can tell the difference, it's bollocks.

Sparxy wrote:

manray wrote:FYI FLAC is lossless.

So a FLAC + WAV are 100% identical, bit for bit.

The only downside to flac is lack of player support.

As for playing out, I use MP3's. Anyone that thinks you can hear the difference between a 320kbps MP3 and a WAV on any club system is talking complete shite.

I agree with all of this and also go with 320 MP3s. They download quicker, take up less space and are far more practical. No one can tell the difference, it's bollocks.

masterchief wrote:
if you have 320 mp3s or wav files but you play them through i tunes does it convert them to aac? or is that different? will that affect quality when you burn a c.d ?

nah mate it used to do some weak shit like that.

dont think it does now....any wav downloads I put into it stay as the full 1411kbps Wav file...

cool how do you check this? because to use up less memory i deleted some of my original music files because i thought that itunes has copies of them.. if you know what i mean.. now I not sure if they are still 320 or wav when playing off i-tunes....

Youtube rips are the way to go! High quality and quick download

OnRepeating » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:54 pm

Youtube rips are the way to go! High quality and quick download

is that even funny? im tryin to ask a question.. and your just talking shit...

i'll be honest i buy mp3's

WAV may be better quality but to be honest i cant tell the difference

plus mp3's are cheaper and take up less room on my hd

masterchief wrote: cool how do you check this? because to use up less memory i deleted some of my original music files because i thought that itunes has copies of them.. if you know what i mean.. now I not sure if they are still 320 or wav when playing off i-tunes....

In the column organiser select it to show the bitrate...then you will always know what quality of file you are playing..or right click on the file in itunes and choose 'Get Info' and it will show you the bitrate...

I cant really speak for a club system but on my high end hifi separates system I can tell the difference between an mp3 and a lossless format. I have done a like for like sound check with a room full of mates and all agreed, and its unlikely we are all placebo-ing ourselves

masterchief wrote:

OnRepeating » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:54 pm

Youtube rips are the way to go! High quality and quick download

is that even funny? im tryin to ask a question.. and your just talking shit...

You have to be an idiot if you think I was serious, no offense...

first i thought everyone was serious about the youtube rips. because a know a dj who gets his tracks like that. And irony is hard to get on fora

jatminx wrote:first i thought everyone was serious about the youtube rips. because a know a dj who gets his tracks like that. And irony is hard to get on fora

On a serious note, worst and laziest possible way to get your music. Such a horrible sound to hear in your ear when you know there's a 320 out there somewhere. And that dj fails if he gets his music off youtube.

y OnRepeating » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:18 pm

masterchief wrote:
OnRepeating » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:54 pm

Youtube rips are the way to go! High quality and quick download

is that even funny? im tryin to ask a question.. and your just talking shit...

You have to be an idiot if you think I was serious, no offense...

yeh obviously not just wanted an aswer for my question...

Aside from Wav´s/AIFs sounding a little more "crispy" to me 320´s are fine imho

i'm actually serious. youtube rips make up 75% of my set lists....

Downloading, ok, everybody does that, me too btw. but if you make money on a dj set, i think you should support the artist too, then... Some people think music is something everybody has a right to and shouldnt be paid for, but i think some artists and (SOME) labels deserve some cash moneyy to survive in this neoliberal capitalist world Music is a 'service' without i can't live, just like food, i pay for food.

OnRepeating wrote: You have to be an idiot if you think I was serious, no offense...

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johney wrote:Aside from Wav´s/AIFs sounding a little more "crispy" to me

how can one lossless format sound different from another

Some basic stuff about file formats:

As mentioned in a previous post, FLAC is completely lossless, i.e it is 100% identical to the WAV, bit-for-bit. You can therefore convert WAV to FLAC and FLAC back to WAV without losing anything. FLAC supports sample rates up to 192KHz and bit depths up to 24 bit. The .CDA files on a CD are basically equivalent to WAVs. (Lossless, 1411kb/s) The advantage of FLAC is that it can compress files to 50% the size of the WAV without losing any information. It's also one of the fastest encoding and decoding formats. AIFF is also basically equivalent to WAV (lossless).

MP3s work by cutting out parts of the audio that are normally difficult to hear. i.e they are lossy. 320s only cut out the tiniest amount of very high frequency stuff which is almost impossible to notice except on the highest fidelity studio monitors or headphones. But there is stuff missing nevertheless, and therefore once you convert a WAV to MP3, there is no way of getting back the missing information. It is a one-way process. Lower bitrates (256, 192, 128) cut out more and more stuff, and I would argue that most people can hear that bitrates less than 320 sound worse. AAC is like Apple's version of MP3 which is also lossy.

Hopefully this helps someone

jatminx wrote: Some people think music is something everybody has a right to and shouldnt be paid for, but i think some artists and (SOME) labels deserve some cash moneyy to survive in this neoliberal capitalist world

Who thinks music is something people have the right to have and shouldnt be paid for??? If it wasnt for the artists it wouldnt exist, whether its Black Box or Sony the artists should get paid... especially in Dubstep where the majority of artists are just normal like us trying to make a living and when you can get a full uncut 1411kbps tune for £1.75 its hardly much to pay considering the enjoyment you will get from it.... fuck shitty max 128 rips of youtube, what a joke