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showguns wrote:time can lick my balls

Hansel:Well..you can just "Derelicte" my balls El Capitan!"

Zoolander:"I can Derelicte my own balls,thank you very much!"

Time would appear to be a dimension of physical reality, like up/down, left/right.

If you think these don't exist either then fair enough. Its pretty hard to prove anything (behind the 'veil of perception' and all that).

We percieve time as different from the other dimensions in that it appears to us to be linear and uni-directional.

But just like the other dimensions, it is not constant, and is affected by other physical factors.


Seems pretty abstract to me.

Hmmm...

Time is an abstract construct as ricky ricardo illustrated very well.

Question is- does it exist other than in our minds and if it does or doesn't exist-does it really matter?

selector.dub.u wrote:Time is an abstract construct as ricky ricardo illsutrated very well.

Question is- does it exist other than in our minds and if it does or doesn't exist-does it really matter?

I used to house share with a philosophy student so this part I understand.

Shonky wrote:

selector.dub.u wrote:Time is an abstract construct as ricky ricardo illsutrated very well.

Question is- does it exist other than in our minds and if it does or doesn't exist-does it really matter?

I used to house share with a philosophy student so this part I understand.

yeah- could be the source of endless circular arguments as well.
Often for me in the so-called past it often came down to whether i was late for work or not and if the boss told me if i am late one more time then I will lose my job. In that situation it <b>might</b> really matter. Or <b>not</b>

pompende wrote:1 thing i seem to become more convinced of every day: everyone is extremely unhappy and disatisfied with everything.

i think that the imperfection of our time system is a good synechdochic example of the general imperfection of the human experience.

now way around this really...just gotta hit the ball when you can i reckon.

Hmm interesting view pompende.
From my view point it is quite the opposite. Everyone around me seems to be more and more happy with their possible existance and the so called things in their possible existance.

I personally have some probably unfounded concern with the path some human beings decide to take, but I have come to the conclusion- through much trial and error that the actions of other human beings are mostly beyond my control as is a whole host of other things.
Whether their happiness has anything to do with time or not.

Time is speed divided by distance, so it's abstract but not as abstract as human emotional concepts such as freedom, justice, love etc.

ahhh

selector.dub.u wrote:

pompende wrote:1 thing i seem to become more convinced of every day: everyone is extremely unhappy and disatisfied with everything.

i think that the imperfection of our time system is a good synechdochic example of the general imperfection of the human experience.

now way around this really...just gotta hit the ball when you can i reckon.

Hmm interesting view pompende.
From my view point it is quite the opposite. Everyone around me seems to be more and more happy with their possible existance and the so called things in their possible existance.

I personally have some probably unfounded concern with the path some human beings decide to take, but I have come to the conclusion- through much trial and error that the actions of other human beings are mostly beyond my control as is a whole host of other things.
Whether their happiness has anything to do with time or not.

seen.
i live my life with that stance: that things are getting better and that i can make the best out of my life and that my friends and family are moving things forward too.
this is the only way for me. thinking the opposite way about my personal life will get me into dark places.
thinking positive and having confidence about yourself, your friends, and your family will get you to really incredible places.


what really makes me think bad about the world is the insane ammount of oppresion, starvation, mistreatment....god it is too awful to go on...and the fact that THERE IS NOT 1 REASONABLE GVMNT ON THE PLANET! that makes me think badly of things...
the only way forward is to make things good for you and the people around you i gues...people that you KNOW, in any event...getting too high and mighty and thinking you are going to "change to world" is the short track to corruption and failure.

when you get your personal life moving forward and realize that there is so much else that you can make better. that is when things get good. incredible. .

to me, because we can measure it mathmatically, then time is not abstract when compared with say, love, fear, hate, anger etc.

althought, irrespective of maths i certainly beleive time is a relative concept

to cite the great philosipher LL Cool J's character 'chef' from deep blue sea

'put your hands on a hot pan, and a minute seems like an hour'
'put your hands on a hot woman, and an hour seems like a minute'

cody wrote: to cite the great philosipher LL Cool J's character 'chef' from deep blue sea

'put your hands on a hot pan, and a minute seems like an hour'
'put your hands on a hot woman, and an hour seems like a minute'

internet first, im sure

Misk wrote:

cody wrote: to cite the great philosipher LL Cool J's character 'chef' from deep blue sea

'put your hands on a hot pan, and a minute seems like an hour'
'put your hands on a hot woman, and an hour seems like a minute'

internet first, im sure

hey?

... and that my friends and family are moving things forward too.
this is the only way for me. thinking the opposite way about my personal life will get me into dark places.
thinking positive and having confidence about yourself, your friends, and your family will get you to really incredible places.

such as:

... THERE IS NOT 1 REASONABLE GVMNT ON THE PLANET! ...

the only way forward is to make things good for you and the people around you i gues...people that you KNOW, in any event...getting too high and mighty and thinking you are going to "change to world" is the short track to corruption and failure.

.. a neo-con/thatcherite/gangster/bigot-friendly point ov view, no?
"u gotta dance with those that brung ya."
&
"do not imminentise the eschaton."

surely we should be governed by some other species.
one with no sense of time.
and that has freed itself from dna slavery.

yeah, basically, isn't this loyalty to arbitrarily local folk over all others just another way to make sure ppl never frighten the government.
keep yr head down, look after yr own etc.

shit my time's running out at this net cafe...[/quote]

i dont understand exactly...i think we both agree governments are unreasonable ...

then, are you suggesting that its better to work on fixing your own government than to look after yourself and friends?
that sort of thing is quite messy tho...plus, isnt a good democracy supposed to be about looking after your people? granted most politicians look after themselves first and then their politician friends, not their constituants.

i like meeting other people at the dance but still im not going to leave the friend that came with me alone in the corner all night.

trying to do things on too large a scale doesnt work out. a lot of times it's like giving a lactose-intolerant person a milkshake.
or even worse its like offering to make someone tea at their house and putting rat poison in for them instead of sugar coz it's their house and you dont know your way around it.


you have some really valid concerns but you are making this wierd assumption that my family and all of my friends are upper class whites.

anyway, its a really good critique. youve opened my head some.

Bedward wrote:
shit my time's running out at this net cafe...

r u on holiday then? i hope youre having a good one

i thought you could draw a circle- night follows day follows night, winter follows autumn, babies grow up n have babies, blah blah blah.

RickyRicardo wrote:of course time is abstract.

can you touch it?

can you smell it?

can you taste it?

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no, but you can waste it..........

pompende wrote:also. i reckon anyone who uses sequencers for drumbeats is a neoplatonist. what do u think?

Nice. Yep, Right in theory.

nice thread

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