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Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:20 pm
by serox
cool. I wish I had pictures of my old set up. I had a Crown XLS 202 and a pair of Turbosound speakers that I use to bang too.

Where do you live that lets you rock it? I use to get complaints from people living floors away from me! moaning things were falling off the shelves haha.

I thought you were a troll tbh. :|

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:24 pm
by MarkMurder
serox wrote: I thought you were a troll tbh. :|
I know I'm kind of *out there*. I live in a house in Richmond, VA. Cool neighbors on one side, vacant house on the other (the side with all my gear). I'm currently in the process of trying to get together some sort of collective (of sick DJ's and artists and business people) locally.

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:01 pm
by MarkMurder
Soundcloud

I grabbed this right out of the middle and faded it in. I think this is a prime example of the vibe without giving away too many of the tricks up my sleeve :m:

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:22 pm
by therapist
MarkMurder wrote:Big ups everyone! I am making a full length Skrillex vs. Mt. Eden mix


just kidding.
My question is how long should my mix be? I am an unknown DJ. When I see unknown DJ's with super long mixes I'm like 'oh god I don't want to listen to that'. I see all these DJ''s that put out so much crap. Mine is going to be TOP fuckin notch. My selection is premium and I'm putting in lots and lots of hours plus I'm gonna get it mastered (anyone have any recommendations?). I originally wanted it to be like super deep gangster reggae mixing some undeniable classix with the freshest dubs from today. Now, it's more like badman outerspace skank (still really fresh). I have made mixes before, but I want this one to be a serious promo.

Btw, my name is Mark Murder. I'm 22. I've been producing music since I was 16 but just got into dubstep about 2 years ago. It is very influential to me. I fell on my head because of a balcony collapse at a dance party and got a ton of money and spent just about all of it on an insane sound system and super professional equipment. I am trying to perfect my technique and sound until I am an international champion before I try to put myself out there (vs. post every little thing you do online/gig with lackluster skills).

Anyway thanks a lot!

PS I don't know if this is the right forum, but if anyone can suggest any reggae influenced dub, especially with really raw gangster vocals, I would greatly appreciate it.
Did anyone else start twitching then go a bit limp when they read that? I think I've had a small form of stroke.

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:45 pm
by deadly_habit
MarkMurder wrote:Soundcloud

I grabbed this right out of the middle and faded it in. I think this is a prime example of the vibe without giving away too many of the tricks up my sleeve :m:
what tricks? beatmatching and knowing how to use your faders and eqs? -w-

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:05 pm
by MarkMurder
deadly habit wrote: what tricks? beatmatching and knowing how to use your faders and eqs? -w-
With all due respect, you have no idea what I'm going to mix into this. I wanted to share what kind of sound I was going for so people like therapist don't shit their pants over the exaggerated description I gave. You're more than welcome to belittle me once my mix is done 8)

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:07 pm
by wub
MarkMurder wrote:
deadly habit wrote: what tricks? beatmatching and knowing how to use your faders and eqs? -w-
With all due respect, you have no idea what I'm going to mix into this. I wanted to share what kind of sound I was going for so people like therapist don't shit their pants over the exaggerated description I gave. You're more than welcome to belittle me once my mix is done 8)

Can you give us a clue as to genre?


also, what you going to be mixing it on? the tt200s?

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:13 pm
by Basic A
You know DJs record mixes live, we dont spend days on end working on them, youll get laughed at for playing something you made on a DAW out... See also Mistabishi. You should be normalizing the volume yourslef as you mix, thats a mark of a good DJ, much less if your sitting there preparing this thing and not recording it live. I wish you the best of luck, but spending 20hours on a 16 minute mix = jokes, getting a mix masterd because you have no clue how to keep a meter at standard = jokes, saying youll cut the mixup and play it out = jokes... this whole thread... jokes.

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:24 pm
by MarkMurder
I want it to be a nice mix of badass reggae and dubstep. I am creating something that is nice to put on, sip a nice brew and puff down to (not too hype, tho I really love that stuff too). I also want something that people that are ignorant to dubstep can listen to and it might intrigue them or make them curious about the sounds. Where I am, dubstep is definitely growing but there are still a lot of people who need to be turned on to it. Then some people have the wrong idea about it. I just want to create something classic that people will want to listen to for years to come, just not the hot new mix which becomes stale after a while. Which brings me to the next part...

I'm making it in Ableton. I'm confident in my real time mixing ability but I know I can take my time and edit and remix it to sound better.

Basic A, I understand everything you're saying, but you're assuming the worst (I'm not gonna pretend like I'm mixing it live or some shit). I'm sure even your favorite DJ plays re-edits or VIP remixes. Where did he make those? What's so bad about taking your time?

I'm trying to make something for other peoples listening enjoyment, not trying to commit genocide or some horrible hate crime. Positivity!

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:25 pm
by wub
MarkMurder wrote:I want it to be a nice mix of badass reggae and dubstep. I am creating something that is nice to put on, sip a nice brew and puff down to (not too hype, tho I really love that stuff too). I also want something that people that are ignorant to dubstep can listen to and it might intrigue them or make them curious about the sounds. Where I am, dubstep is definitely growing but there are still a lot of people who need to be turned on to it. Then some people have the wrong idea about it. I just want to create something classic that people will want to listen to for years to come, just not the hot new mix which becomes stale after a while. Which brings me to the next part...

I'm making it in Ableton. I'm confident in my real time mixing ability but I know I can take my time and edit and remix it to sound better.

Basic A, I understand everything you're saying, but you're assuming the worst (I'm not gonna pretend like I'm mixing it live or some shit). I'm sure even you're favorite DJ plays re-edits or VIP remixes. Where did he make those? What's so bad about taking your time?

I'm trying to make something for other peoples listening enjoyment, not trying to commit genocide or some horrible hate crime. Positivity!

Best of luck to you man, would be interested to hear what you come up with.

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:05 pm
by Basic A
MarkMurder wrote:I want it to be a nice mix of badass reggae and dubstep. I am creating something that is nice to put on, sip a nice brew and puff down to (not too hype, tho I really love that stuff too). I also want something that people that are ignorant to dubstep can listen to and it might intrigue them or make them curious about the sounds. Where I am, dubstep is definitely growing but there are still a lot of people who need to be turned on to it. Then some people have the wrong idea about it. I just want to create something classic that people will want to listen to for years to come, just not the hot new mix which becomes stale after a while. Which brings me to the next part...

I'm making it in Ableton. I'm confident in my real time mixing ability but I know I can take my time and edit and remix it to sound better.

Basic A, I understand everything you're saying, but you're assuming the worst (I'm not gonna pretend like I'm mixing it live or some shit). I'm sure even your favorite DJ plays re-edits or VIP remixes. Where did he make those? What's so bad about taking your time?

I'm trying to make something for other peoples listening enjoyment, not trying to commit genocide or some horrible hate crime. Positivity!
I dont have a favorite DJ, Ive been DJing myself for tooooo long to start playing favorites here. And yes. VIP mixes are a totally different thing entirely though. The way you said it, I got the impression you were going to play parts of a mixtape out live, which is very different then an artist-approved VIP mix they would release, or ect. Im not entirely sure what you mean by edits, but I know some people do that shit where the pre-prepare tunes in DAWs, Id rather just have multi-cues and cdjs.

Producers make VIPs and I dont understand why you would edit a producers work without thier full go ahead, but, continue as you were man, I just thought you were talking about pulling a full blown mista haha, and since thats not what your up to, go for it.

But either way, when making a promo mix, it should be an accurate representation of what you can bring to the table live. If you cant do what your doing without spending 20hours on 15 minutes of audio, you are misleading people, either way you look at it.

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:16 pm
by DJ Crackle
Basic A wrote:See also Mistabishi.
bahahahah

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:27 pm
by MarkMurder
Basic A wrote:But either way, when making a promo mix, it should be an accurate representation of what you can bring to the table live. If you cant do what your doing without spending 20hours on 15 minutes of audio, you are misleading people, either way you look at it.
I can do it both ways (and even include both on a demo). I definitely will be sure to include that its a studio mix. Tho people won't get a taste for my live mixing skills, if it gets my name on people's car stereos or ipods or whatever, that's promotion. Also, people could peep my selection skills. SELECTORRRR! I'm not trying to pull a Mistabishi. Ideally I'd like to perform with a band and not even be a 1 man DJ entity, but I'll elaborate about that some other time.

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:02 am
by Basic A
MarkMurder wrote:
Basic A wrote:But either way, when making a promo mix, it should be an accurate representation of what you can bring to the table live. If you cant do what your doing without spending 20hours on 15 minutes of audio, you are misleading people, either way you look at it.
I can do it both ways (and even include both on a demo). I definitely will be sure to include that its a studio mix. Tho people won't get a taste for my live mixing skills, if it gets my name on people's car stereos or ipods or whatever, that's promotion. Also, people could peep my selection skills. SELECTORRRR! I'm not trying to pull a Mistabishi. Ideally I'd like to perform with a band and not even be a 1 man DJ entity, but I'll elaborate about that some other time.
If its so amazing live, then why not do it live? Heck your even using LIVE -w-

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:02 am
by th@-pu$$y
MarkMurder wrote:Macbook Pro, Ecler Evo 5, mk1200, tt200 (numark), Moog Little Phatty, Korg R3, Presonus Tube preamp/compressor, DBX active pa processor, 2 QSC k12's@1000w and an Electrovoice EV750 subwoofer@750w. I also have some other stuff but I don't think its really worth mentioning.
Those QSC 12's BANG! So loud, so clean, so KICK ASS :mrgreen:

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:12 am
by legend4ry
To me, a mix longer than half an hour won't hold my attention span unless its really special..

But feedback from my mixes series keeps suggesting I make them an hour -I just don't like that!

45 minutes, max!

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:30 am
by sifres
I've done the abbleton mix thing. It's actually really easy to pull of and interestingly; when fucking around you will come up with nice edits of tracks you wouldn't normally use because they are hard to mix, or come up with interesting mash ups or vips.

No need to make a hassle about it though bro. It's really down to what you're doing. If it's brostep, keep it short because it takes energy to listen to. If it's chilled make it longer. Aim for about 20 songs and you'll propably get somewhere around 60 minutes.



PS. Lose the anoying finger when photographing your gear. You obviously want to be taken seriously (your attitude gives it away) the finger makes you look like a shitty punk. Also don't come barging in here like you invented the abbleton mix. It's been done loadsa times since abbleton 4. It's nice you wanna spend some time on it, but no need to be a pretentious prick about it.

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:38 am
by tavravlavish
serox wrote:I think this is a wind up.
clearly...

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:14 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
I think my jealousy is eroding my sympathy. Being hurt is never worth a settlement, but, yeah....

I'm jealous of the goods.

I'm also getting this sense of "i just got a whole lot of money, the shit i bought is definitely going to propel me to the upper tiers of DJ fame and perfection, heres a middle finger for you sorry lot"

........

got a job for an MBA in Marion? -w-

Re: Mix Length

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:29 pm
by abZ
legend4ry wrote:To me, a mix longer than half an hour won't hold my attention span unless its really special..

But feedback from my mixes series keeps suggesting I make them an hour -I just don't like that!

45 minutes, max!
A have been doing 30 minutes lately but I always get told it's too short. But that's a good thing. I just think peoples attentions spans are not long things. Anywhere from 30 to 60 is good I think.