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Re: On Harmonic Mixing
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:44 pm
by abZ
pompende wrote:abZ wrote:finding key matches by intuition anyway. I dont want to say by accident because it's not.
the best way to do it without a doubt.
if you buy your vinyls and get to know the tunes youll know whats going to work. works perfect in the club too: you start off with 3-4 tunes planned in advance, watch how the crowds liking it, and then roll from there on instinct.
Yeah I know guys that will play the same set 3 gigs in a row. They don't care as long as it's perfect. If you want perfect stay at home and listen to a studio mix. I play on the edge of disaster all the time. Generally I do have some pretty bad fuck ups. It's the price you pay to hear something conceived on the spot. It's what keeps things fun for myself as well.
Re: On Harmonic Mixing
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:47 pm
by amidoinitrite
For me I've found rapid RAPID EVOLUTION quite accurate!
..The one thing I don't care for is the number system.. just one question.. why?
I label all my tunes with the actual key they are in.. not some number assigned to a key.
To me it seems more simple and a better representation of the song
I wouldn't play a lead or progression in 1A, so why would I label my tunes that way?
Re: On Harmonic Mixing
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:54 pm
by abZ
amidoinitrite wrote:For me I've found rapid RAPID EVOLUTION quite accurate!
..The one thing I don't care for is the number system.. just one question.. why?
I label all my tunes with the actual key they are in.. not some number assigned to a key.
To me it seems more simple and a better representation of the song
I wouldn't play a lead or progression in 1A, so why would I label my tunes that way?
I am 100% with you. We already have a pretty good system with a through g no?
Re: On Harmonic Mixing
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:04 pm
by decklyn
I think the idea was to bring the circle of fifths to those who lack a musical background. It's nomenclature - talking about music is like dancing about politics.
Re: On Harmonic Mixing
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:11 pm
by camelotsound
amidoinitrite wrote:For me I've found rapid RAPID EVOLUTION quite accurate!
..The one thing I don't care for is the number system.. just one question.. why?
I label all my tunes with the actual key they are in.. not some number assigned to a key.
To me it seems more simple and a better representation of the song
I wouldn't play a lead or progression in 1A, so why would I label my tunes that way?
The original Harmonic Keys Overlay Chart required memorization of the the relationship of 12 minor and 12 major keys, which took countless hours for people with no music education. I created the Camelot Easymix Wheel in 1991 because it allows people to easily choose harmonically compatible tracks without music education. It's as easy as telling time.
People with music education are encouraged to use the original Circle of Fifths. The Easymix system is intended for the majority without music education. It is just a shortcut, which explains its adoption as the industry standard. Nothing more, nothing less.
Re: On Harmonic Mixing
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:58 pm
by drake89
camelotsound wrote:amidoinitrite wrote:For me I've found rapid RAPID EVOLUTION quite accurate!
..The one thing I don't care for is the number system.. just one question.. why?
I label all my tunes with the actual key they are in.. not some number assigned to a key.
To me it seems more simple and a better representation of the song
I wouldn't play a lead or progression in 1A, so why would I label my tunes that way?
The original Harmonic Keys Overlay Chart required memorization of the the relationship of 12 minor and 12 major keys, which took countless hours for people with no music education. I created the Camelot Easymix Wheel in 1991 because it allows people to easily choose harmonically compatible tracks without music education. It's as easy as telling time.
People with music education are encouraged to use the original Circle of Fifths. The Easymix system is intended for the majority without music education. It is just a shortcut, which explains its adoption as the industry standard. Nothing more, nothing less.

evidence of "industry standard"?

Re: On Harmonic Mixing
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:12 pm
by abZ
No one I know in the industry uses it. Just sayin'.
Re: On Harmonic Mixing
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:52 pm
by camelotsound
abZ wrote:No one I know in the industry uses it. Just sayin'.
All leading key detection software companies (MixedInKey, Rapid Evolution, and Mixmeister) use codes for keys, in addition to Camelot Sound using keycodes since 1991.
Re: On Harmonic Mixing
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:02 am
by 3za
abZ wrote:I don't even really want to get into this. I have argued with one of the developers of this system before, and will again heheh.
Fixed

Re: On Harmonic Mixing
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:10 am
by abZ
3za wrote:abZ wrote:I don't even really want to get into this. I have argued with one of the developers of this system before, and will again heheh.
Fixed

