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Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:51 am
by Basic A
Kes-Es wrote:
I think though, that because production is a loner's trade, that you don't often run in to people from labels/ other producers who give a shit what your personality is like
Not true, personality is everything.

Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:11 am
by paravrais
Kes-Es wrote:I don't know if it's anyone else's deal, but don't submit your tracks to dnb scene for review, if you're not sure, you need to be able to take criticism, not an ass pounding ego rape.
I like that site. Keeps things in perspective.
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:20 am
by Johnst
paravrais wrote:Kes-Es wrote:I don't know if it's anyone else's deal, but don't submit your tracks to dnb scene for review, if you're not sure, you need to be able to take criticism, not an ass pounding ego rape.
I like that site. Keeps things in perspective.
yes, it was nice in keeping the perspective part.
but it was QUITE the ass pounding ego rape. i know that my tunes now are already much better than one of the tunes i put up but DAMN that was harsh *tear*
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:44 am
by wub
Play your tune out when you're DJing. If people don't immediately walk off the dancefloor in disgust, you're onto something.
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:38 pm
by deadly_habit
Johnst wrote:paravrais wrote:Kes-Es wrote:I don't know if it's anyone else's deal, but don't submit your tracks to dnb scene for review, if you're not sure, you need to be able to take criticism, not an ass pounding ego rape.
I like that site. Keeps things in perspective.
yes, it was nice in keeping the perspective part.
but it was QUITE the ass pounding ego rape. i know that my tunes now are already much better than one of the tunes i put up but DAMN that was harsh *tear*
more people need that ass pounding ego rape and honesty instead of a bunch of yes men friends and purely positive people who won't criticize
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:09 pm
by Johnst
^^ yeah no i agree. doesn't mean it's easy to take when you know you're not good but you're working your ass off anyways.

Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:19 pm
by deadly_habit
it's called a reality check

Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:21 pm
by JFK
deadly habit wrote:it's called a reality check

Agree. You have to be able to roll with the punches.
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:28 pm
by deadly_habit
JFK wrote:deadly habit wrote:it's called a reality check

Agree. You have to be able to roll with the punches.
heh i've had on more than occasion people not be able to take blunt critique and been told to fuck off my tunes are shit anyways, my friends like this etc by some random peeps hitting me up for some reason if they hate my stuff that much

if they got honest feedback from one of their idols they'd prolly be devastated and cry to mom and dad
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:33 pm
by Phase Down
Capture pt wrote:
skanky beats wrote:
and also, i think wait for the label to contact you, that way your music will find a more suitable home!
Yeh - this was another thing I wanted to avoid - nothing knows the sound more than the label itself, right? Would be awfully embarrassing to be told "tunes are decent but not our thing" - but then of course this puts us back at square 1, trying to get labels to hear the product in the first place!
embarrassing? how? trust me, your gonna have to be extremely lucky, or wait a long time for a label to pick you up just like that.. dont be silly and send demos around.. theres Nothing embarrassing about that
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:41 pm
by Johnst
deadly habit wrote:JFK wrote:deadly habit wrote:it's called a reality check

Agree. You have to be able to roll with the punches.
heh i've had on more than occasion people not be able to take blunt critique and been told to fuck off my tunes are shit anyways, my friends like this etc by some random peeps hitting me up for some reason if they hate my stuff that much

if they got honest feedback from one of their idols they'd prolly be devastated and cry to mom and dad
oh well damn now i seem stupid...
i understand the critique, i agree with it, i know i'm nowhere near where i hope to be one day. but maybe it could have been worded a tiny bit nicer? i read it a few times and the first time was brutal, but after that i started to see the positives in what they said. so it was good in the end.
but a brutal ass raping nonetheless

Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:14 pm
by Capture pt
Alot of good stuff here for sure... I might whip up a .rar folder later with a little .txt file about myself in there for good measure, and maybe send to some labels/DJ's im feeling right now.
Alot of it for me is not wanting to appear a spammer, but its come clear through this thread to avoid that all you gotta do is appear human and have a conversation rather than just LISTEN TO MY MUSIC AND SIGN PLEASE approach.
cheers guys.
also, for the person asking what style Im maknig now, its sort of on that darker 135 house vibe thats going around right now. Dont know how to explain it better than that unfortunately.
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:41 pm
by Basic A
Capture pt wrote:also, for the person asking what style Im maknig now, its sort of on that darker 135 house vibe thats going around right now. Dont know how to explain it better than that unfortunately.
Im said person asking lol, And I read 'dark' '135'... 135 is my tempo of choice, get at me on AIM man.
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:16 pm
by CBK81
There are labels out there that are looking to help new artists. Monkey Dub is a great one for getting tunes out there. Just keep networking. That is how we got our tunes out.
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:27 pm
by Kes-Es
I didn't mean the ego rape was bad, I'm not often sober enough to care anyways, but like Johnst mentioned, it's not quite butterflies and sunshine to hear your music is terrible, and it's especially less nice because a lot of the critique is coming from the tempo not the actual music, I have reviews on there mentioning as much as the reasoning. It also makes you think that the people who do like your tunes are Dumb/patronizing you.
It did let me on to the Idea that my music all has an unfinished feeling to it that I should finish it to fix... I was just saying it's a bad place to go if you're prone to giving up at a glare.
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:32 pm
by Capture pt
Basic A wrote:Capture pt wrote:also, for the person asking what style Im maknig now, its sort of on that darker 135 house vibe thats going around right now. Dont know how to explain it better than that unfortunately.
Im said person asking lol, And I read 'dark' '135'... 135 is my tempo of choice, get at me on AIM man.
ill download AIM and ill hook you up!
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:49 pm
by deadly_habit
Kes-Es wrote:I didn't mean the ego rape was bad, I'm not often sober enough to care anyways, but like Johnst mentioned, it's not quite butterflies and sunshine to hear your music is terrible, and it's especially less nice because a lot of the critique is coming from the tempo not the actual music, I have reviews on there mentioning as much as the reasoning. It also makes you think that the people who do like your tunes are Dumb/patronizing you.
It did let me on to the Idea that my music all has an unfinished feeling to it that I should finish it to fix... I was just saying it's a bad place to go if you're prone to giving up at a glare.
well honestly expecting a quality unbiased review of a
dubstep tune on a site called
dnb[/i[/]scene...
maybe you haven't been in either scene that long, but there's a history, and i'm not talking a positive one or about drumstep 
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:59 pm
by paravrais
deadly habit wrote:Kes-Es wrote:I didn't mean the ego rape was bad, I'm not often sober enough to care anyways, but like Johnst mentioned, it's not quite butterflies and sunshine to hear your music is terrible, and it's especially less nice because a lot of the critique is coming from the tempo not the actual music, I have reviews on there mentioning as much as the reasoning. It also makes you think that the people who do like your tunes are Dumb/patronizing you.
It did let me on to the Idea that my music all has an unfinished feeling to it that I should finish it to fix... I was just saying it's a bad place to go if you're prone to giving up at a glare.
well honestly expecting a quality unbiased review of a
dubstep tune on a site called
dnb[/i[/]scene...
maybe you haven't been in either scene that long, but there's a history, and i'm not talking a positive one or about drumstep 
Personally I haven't really seen much dubstep bashing on that site. My dubstep tune I put up seemed to fare alright despite being dubstep *and* a shit tune XD
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:21 am
by Kes-Es
deadly habit wrote:Kes-Es wrote:I didn't mean the ego rape was bad, I'm not often sober enough to care anyways, but like Johnst mentioned, it's not quite butterflies and sunshine to hear your music is terrible, and it's especially less nice because a lot of the critique is coming from the tempo not the actual music, I have reviews on there mentioning as much as the reasoning. It also makes you think that the people who do like your tunes are Dumb/patronizing you.
It did let me on to the Idea that my music all has an unfinished feeling to it that I should finish it to fix... I was just saying it's a bad place to go if you're prone to giving up at a glare.
well honestly expecting a quality unbiased review of a
dubstep tune on a site called
dnb[/i[/]scene...
maybe you haven't been in either scene that long, but there's a history, and i'm not talking a positive one or about drumstep 
I'm aware of the history haha, Place seemed nice enough though.
I Dunno, back on subject though, I have been sending tunes out for critique and to djs and labels and I haven't heard much back, frankly I'd love a board of people where you can go and they tell you if your tunes sound pro or not with a simple yay or nay, producers can often be too nice about it and friends aren't much help at all either. It's even harder because sometimes there's a point where you're pushing a sound that people just don't like.
I feel like I'm at a proper skill level to get tunes out, and I'm almost 90% sure I've had some tunes played out, but that doesn't do me much good here where there's no scene for it or interest enough to start one.
I must not be talking to the right people either because I never get to hear the mixes haha.
Re: How to know when youre ready/getting your stuff out ther
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:23 am
by skanky beats
Sharmaji wrote:skanky beats wrote:
and also, i think wait for the label to contact you, that way your music will find a more suitable home!
that's pretty much guaranteed failure right there.
lol how? i waited patiently and now have been offered some great labels to release on! Dont understand why everyone feels the need to rush everything!