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Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:17 pm
by Demian
That sounded awesome! I was always wondering how Eskmo did the rolling time stretch bass drop effects...not a clue if this is how, but damn that sounds wicked!

Thanks for your ballin contribution to Dubstep. :4:

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:41 pm
by the dub lemon
Sick sounds there mate!

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:38 pm
by thor_beatz
cheers guys!

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:51 pm
by izaac c
ye been using this technique for about 18 months, liking the drums on ya track, can sort of hear itcome through on our reeces,
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granulating is great fun.

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:22 pm
by thor_beatz
wicked sounds Izaac. nce and neuro!

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:05 pm
by hasezwei
speaking of resampling... i never really get the results other people do when resampling. probably i'm doing the wrong things/applying the wrong fx in between steps, to be honest i don't even know what to do.
i just create a nice gnarly sound without automations in my synth, beef that up even more with waveshapers and tubes and all that jazz, then bounce it. load it into a sampler, apply some different lowpass-filter automations, bounce all of them.
then i chop them up like a breakbeat, and after that... well i don't quite know what to do. i frequency-split the final bassline into 3 bands, but only to mix and compress those differently (i like to have the midrange a bit lower and heavily sidechain it to get some extra movement). but even after doing that, it's basically just a variation of the sound i initially created in massive (or anything else i'd use).

is there more to it? do the sounds really change *drastically* in between different resampling stages? in other words, is it a purely subtractive method or are there additive steps? and what exactly do you do after you cut it up for the first time? stick another automated filter on top of your automated filters?

i'd kinda like to see a step by step tutorial, not explaining how to actually resample and freqsplit (that's been covered to death, srsly) but more like an example signal/resampling chain from start to finish, to really illustrate what to do in between stages. it's probably time-consuming to do that but i'm sure it'd help a lot of people.

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:38 pm
by thor_beatz
hasezwei wrote:speaking of resampling... i never really get the results other people do when resampling. probably i'm doing the wrong things/applying the wrong fx in between steps, to be honest i don't even know what to do.
i just create a nice gnarly sound without automations in my synth, beef that up even more with waveshapers and tubes and all that jazz, then bounce it. load it into a sampler, apply some different lowpass-filter automations, bounce all of them.
then i chop them up like a breakbeat, and after that... well i don't quite know what to do. i frequency-split the final bassline into 3 bands, but only to mix and compress those differently (i like to have the midrange a bit lower and heavily sidechain it to get some extra movement). but even after doing that, it's basically just a variation of the sound i initially created in massive (or anything else i'd use).

is there more to it? do the sounds really change *drastically* in between different resampling stages? in other words, is it a purely subtractive method or are there additive steps? and what exactly do you do after you cut it up for the first time? stick another automated filter on top of your automated filters?

i'd kinda like to see a step by step tutorial, not explaining how to actually resample and freqsplit (that's been covered to death, srsly) but more like an example signal/resampling chain from start to finish, to really illustrate what to do in between stages. it's probably time-consuming to do that but i'm sure it'd help a lot of people.
I get my bass sound as fat as possible. I try to have a 1 OSC act as a sub, so I dont have to mind the tuning of the bassline when resampling and adding a sub layer. I automate any parameter I hook up to my midi controller. (usng macros for more extreme results). LFO, phaser, feedback etc, they are all being automated and end up in one big recording. Drop that in a slicer and arrange your track. Mix that in splitted channels. Add moderate fx to each channel (lo,mi,hi)

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:42 am
by thor_beatz
Howdy,

So I've decided to split this up in 3 parts. Next part we will be using massive to create some fat bass sounds, 3rd will be about layering them.

In the first part I show how I granulize audio used in the example posted here before (or similair sounding anyway).

(watch in HD for the tiny letters)



Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:41 am
by daft cunt
Awesome stuff!
Thanks for sharing the knowledge and making the tutorials.
Can't wait for the next parts.

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:54 am
by daft cunt
Also, very useful blog! Thanks for that too!

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:55 am
by djbmc
wow, that bass is epic, gonna try that out man

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:39 am
by tylerblue
You are a gentleman, and a scholar. Thanks and looking forward to the next tutorials. :W:

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:26 am
by thor_beatz
Cheers guys! Stay tuned ;)

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:35 pm
by djbmc
i just listened to 'TJOK' on the same soundcloud page (i assume it's you?) mate how do you do that with ur basslines?!?!?! beg you do a more general tutorial for people (n00bs) like me!

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:46 pm
by thor_beatz
djbmc wrote:i just listened to 'TJOK' on the same soundcloud page (i assume it's you?) mate how do you do that with ur basslines?!?!?! beg you do a more general tutorial for people (n00bs) like me!
Polymasss is me and Maartez. In part 2 there will be more massive tuts. Also check out my tutorial section on http://durkkooistra.com

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:55 pm
by djbmc
cool, i don't use massive, i take it that type of sound isn't confined to just massive tho? although i'm aware of how versatile the whole performer/lfo modulation section is, and i'll check that link out

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:22 pm
by thor_beatz
By no means massive is the only way to achieve big bad bass. It is however the fastest way for me. It's mostly due to it's wavetables (which is something different than most synth have) and routing options combined with the drag n drop for exceptional modulation abilities.

In FL 3OSC, in ableton the operator, the list goes on and they are all capable of producing fat bass sounds.

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:30 pm
by hifi
edit: i know you hate me thor but sick WIP

Re: New resampling technique

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:26 pm
by thor_beatz
Just uploaded part 2

In this tutorial we take a look at a pre resample stage project and at the automations via maco controls in NI massive.


Re: New resampling technique [tutorial update]

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:12 am
by thor_beatz
Added the last part. Enjoy.