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pkay wrote:our country isn't willing to give up its defense spending because it would require us to act like normal human beings instead of the arrogant pricks we are now.

and that is the problem. even if you were to reduce the defense budget by a considerable amount you'd still be spending more than the next few top countries combined and have way more than enough to be "safe"... on top of that, it certainly wouldn't hurt if taxes were brought to a reasonable level for the top few percent. warren buffet pays a lower percentage of income tax than his secretary FFS. that's not right.

Phigure wrote:warren buffet pays a lower percentage of income tax than his secretary FFS. that's not right.

Certainly not as clued up as you on this, but I'm sure this is an issue of "something is better than nothing". It's a shame, but it's not likely that his secretary will up and move to another country and pay tax, but if tax is too high for a billionaire, they have the means to leave to somewhere that will accept lower tax. Unfortunately, this is surely exploited, but (I know these aren't the correct figures) 10% of a billion is better than 30% of 20,000.

pkay wrote: 65% of americans have high speed internet
99% of american households have at least one television
73% of american households have cable or satellite television
91% of americans have cell phones
65% of american households have two or more cars

I don't understand why people should choose between spending on what they like and having decent healthcare. Rich people don't have to budget to guarantee decent healthcare, neither should anyone else.

pkay wrote:

collige wrote:

pkay wrote: So once again lets concede that the 14% in poverty, the old, the young, the disabled need assistance. The rest of us could easily afford healthcare if we prioritized... we simply choose not to

The government could also easily have the best state-run healthcare in the world if it prioritized too.

100% agree but if you prioritize it you compromise something else

The problem with americans is that we want to have our cake and eat it too. Most americans wouldnt give up what it would take to get said healthcare because we all live in the short term.

We aren't sick today, so we don't want to give up our high speed internet because we like to play WoW and counterstrike.

Our country isn't willing to give up its defense spending because it would require us to act like normal human beings instead of the arrogant pricks we are now.

garethom wrote:

Phigure wrote:warren buffet pays a lower percentage of income tax than his secretary FFS. that's not right.

Certainly not as clued up as you on this, but I'm sure this is an issue of "something is better than nothing". It's a shame, but it's not likely that his secretary will up and move to another country and pay tax, but if tax is too high for a billionaire, they have the means to leave to somewhere that will accept lower tax. Unfortunately, this is surely exploited, but (I know these aren't the correct figures) 10% of a billion is better than 30% of 20,000.

not for the secretary

whats the min wage per hour in the states ??

about 14cents

pkay wrote: 65% of americans have high speed internet
99% of american households have at least one television
73% of american households have cable or satellite television
91% of americans have cell phones
65% of american households have two or more cars

LOLS! you're equating products and services with a sign of a good society, lols, thats the american psyche in a nutshell. lols. buy shit and be happy. lols.

Consume - be happy - die.

What a pathetic way to live, no wonder 73% of the world hate's 99% of Americans.

the acid never lies wrote:

pkay wrote: 65% of americans have high speed internet
99% of american households have at least one television
73% of american households have cable or satellite television
91% of americans have cell phones
65% of american households have two or more cars

I don't understand why people should choose between spending on what they like and having decent healthcare. Rich people don't have to budget to guarantee decent healthcare, neither should anyone else.

fucking this, if anything poor people need hypnosis stuffs more as a release from the daily grind

the acid never lies wrote:

pkay wrote: 65% of americans have high speed internet
99% of american households have at least one television
73% of american households have cable or satellite television
91% of americans have cell phones
65% of american households have two or more cars

I don't understand why people should choose between spending on what they like and having decent healthcare. Rich people don't have to budget to guarantee decent healthcare, neither should anyone else.

That's because rich people are rich and you are not

So you need to choose between things you need and things you want They don't have to budget for housing, food, or any other necessity in life.

The problem with the world today is that everyone wants to live rich and feels they are entitled to the luxuries of being rich.

Most of us are not rich so we have to prioritize. We have to choose paying our rent over buying a yacht. We have to decide if we want a subscription to bangbus or if we want to buy groceries. You may have to pass up your weekly blowjob from a hooker in order to pay your electricity bill.

If you view helathcare as a necessity you need to treat it like the other necessities in your life.

firky wrote:

pkay wrote: 65% of americans have high speed internet
99% of american households have at least one television
73% of american households have cable or satellite television
91% of americans have cell phones
65% of american households have two or more cars

LOLS! you're equating products and services with a sign of a good society, lols, thats the american psyche in a nutshell. lols. buy shit and be happy. lols.

Consume - be happy - die.

What a pathetic way to live, no wonder 73% of the world hate's 99% of Americans.

Apparently you do not know how to read.

I'm saying that internet, tv, cell phones, and excess transportation are WANTS. Healthcare is a NEED. and if you spent $300 a month less on WANTS you would have $300 to spend on NEEDS.

You follow? I have no idea where you got the idea of 'a good society' my guess is you were skimming over, saw some numbers, stopped reading, and then started chatting shit.

In today's society, a cell phone could arguably be considered a need. The Washington Post did an article a few years back about how a lot of homeless people have cell phones for job hunting purposes. It might seem counter-intuitive, but you can't very well get a call back from an employer without a phone.

The TV statistic doesn't really mean anything. The TV I own cost me $20.

collige wrote:In today's society, a cell phone could arguably be considered a need. The Washington Post did an article a few years back about how a lot of homeless people have cell phones for job hunting purposes. It might seem counter-intuitive, but you can't very well get a call back from an employer without a phone.

The TV statistic doesn't really mean anything. The TV I own cost me $20.

keep it real collige..... you know US homeless folks have no intention of getting jobs. Those cell phones are to score easier :p

"WILL WORK FOR FOOD, HOLLA AT YOUR BOY! 555-555-1212"

pkay wrote:

collige wrote:In today's society, a cell phone could arguably be considered a need. The Washington Post did an article a few years back about how a lot of homeless people have cell phones for job hunting purposes. It might seem counter-intuitive, but you can't very well get a call back from an employer without a phone.

The TV statistic doesn't really mean anything. The TV I own cost me $20.

keep it real collige..... you know US homeless folks have no intention of getting jobs. Those cell phones are to score easier :p

"WILL WORK FOR FOOD, HOLLA AT YOUR BOY! 555-555-1212"

Wondering at which point you were being serious and where you started trolling? please let me know

Here's the article in question:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01835.html

(Pada) wrote:

pkay wrote:

collige wrote:In today's society, a cell phone could arguably be considered a need. The Washington Post did an article a few years back about how a lot of homeless people have cell phones for job hunting purposes. It might seem counter-intuitive, but you can't very well get a call back from an employer without a phone.

The TV statistic doesn't really mean anything. The TV I own cost me $20.

keep it real collige..... you know US homeless folks have no intention of getting jobs. Those cell phones are to score easier :p

"WILL WORK FOR FOOD, HOLLA AT YOUR BOY! 555-555-1212"

Wondering at which point you were being serious and where you started trolling? please let me know

I straddle the line constantly. Serious Trolling, Trolling Seriously

collige wrote:Here's the article in question:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01835.html

That pic of the chick in the trashbag with a cell phone is fantastic.

Stop doing things you like and start saving for when you get cancer.

wubstep wrote:Stop doing things you like and start saving for when you get cancer.

i like this a lot.

TSH-Tim wrote:whats the min wage per hour in the states ??

Can anyone answer this ?

$7.25/hour is the federal minimum for people who don't make tips, a few states have it higher.