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Deep House, Electro and alot of alternative rock. Sometimes DnB but never really got into it as a genre.
Once I heard Dubstep for the first time, just appreciated everything about it.
I still dabble in Funk/Deep House music but mainly Dubstep now.

I find it very straineous the amount of pinpoint accuracy that goes into making House drum tracks to stop them feeling empty and repetitive.

jaimelee wrote:
I find it very straineous the amount of pinpoint accuracy that goes into making House drum tracks to stop them feeling empty and repetitive.

Yeah they're busier than dubstep drums... but it is hard to get a variang house beat. Listen to say some Deadmau5 for want of a better example and there's a lot of repitition there

i also used to play folky rock/country with a chick from college who is a tremendous vocalist, i wish i had her vocal stems to fuck with cuz she's got a beautiful voice

jaydot wrote:Yeah they're busier than dubstep drums... but it is hard to get a variang house beat. Listen to say some Deadmau5 for want of a better example and there's a lot of repitition there

Listening to Vanishing point the now..
Not enjoying it but the synths are nice.

The very long history of my intense love for music.
Up to 12yos: The Eagles, Beach Boys, all the 80's stuff my mom listened to in the car
13-18: Hendrix, Bowie, The Doors, Pink Floyd et. al classic rock also discovered electronic music. Mostly downloaded random stuff of MP3.com and was really into the Chemical Brothers(Surrender still blows my mind), Crystal Method and Fatboy Slim. At this point I didn't know what I rave was really (I know, Naive).

In college one of my best friends to this day introduced me to Jungle/DnB started taking me to parties. Bought a copy of FL studio and am still failing at making tunes I'm really happy with.

These days I like pretty much like any kind of music as long as its good. I have a serious addiction to stuff like the Drive-By Truckers at the moment...

wub wrote:I just make electronic sounds. If it turns out to be one genre or another, then so be it.

same. but I intend to make dubstep.

jaydot wrote:

jaimelee wrote:
I find it very straineous the amount of pinpoint accuracy that goes into making House drum tracks to stop them feeling empty and repetitive.

Yeah they're busier than dubstep drums... but it is hard to get a variang house beat. Listen to say some Deadmau5 for want of a better example and there's a lot of repitition there

yea well house is all just synchopated (well at least I think thats the right term to put it, correct me if you will) which you want consistency in the track so it doesn't seem repetitive but it really is. Like what you said deadmau5 keeps it chill very repetitive but I mean it's not bad at all. It is quite easy to produce house. just the four to the floor beat for 30 seconds with some hihat pattern, some part of your bassline/stab/ whatever comes at the drop, sweep up, some funky blips, and maybe some other stuff you would want to add in there. I find dubstep a lot harder to produce since its all about making unique basslines now that are interesting too and original to actually get noticed or get fans. The plain ole lfo to filter cutoff sine/square wave sound is kind of done with its all about more sound processing and whatnot well at least for brostep. Alot of people still enjoy Loefah, Phaelah, Kode9, Digital Mystikz and others which i respect and thats a different side of dubstep thats the Real Dubstep. sory if I am completely getting off topic ahaha and for the double post.

Hypefiend wrote:yea well house is all just synchopated (well at least I think thats the right term to put it, correct me if you will) which you want consistency in the track so it doesn't seem repetitive but it really is. Like what you said deadmau5 keeps it chill very repetitive but I mean it's not bad at all. It is quite easy to produce house. just the four to the floor beat for 30 seconds with some hihat pattern, some part of your bassline/stab/ whatever comes at the drop, sweep up, some funky blips, and maybe some other stuff you would want to add in there. I find dubstep a lot harder to produce since its all about making unique basslines now that are interesting too and original to actually get noticed or get fans. The plain ole lfo to filter cutoff sine/square wave sound is kind of done with its all about more sound processing and whatnot well at least for brostep. Alot of people still enjoy Loefah, Phaelah, Kode9, Digital Mystikz and others which i respect and thats a different side of dubstep thats the Real Dubstep. sory if I am completely getting off topic ahaha and for the double post.

You're correct about how you have to be completely unique, which makes it a much more open genre.
I enjoy dubstep much more based on that, can't just throw the same thing together every time.
Prefer listening to the older stuff, it much better in the creative sense as nobody was doing it at that time.
Ambience has always been the way, better structuring and variety to expand too.
Rather than the screeching mid-highs, just isn't nice to listen too.
Not putting down their work though, some amazing tracks in that area.

Mau5 likes his build-ups, but it goes right back at times.

indika wrote:

DZA wrote:Started producing because of dubstep then moved on

Same here.

Seconded...although i made a tiny bit of awful house/minimal before my awful dubstep

I like to try to take the spirit of dubstep (sub bass and then whatever) and add it to house/techno/funky/grime/garage/whatever. Also go between 4x4 stuff (Jimmih/Isskapur) and broken beat stuff (Skwiggo).

started through a love of hip hop, then i learnt the bulk of what i know through making drum and bass. producing dubstep is a recent thing for me, i probably make more garage than dubstep aswell

wub wrote:I just make electronic sounds. If it turns out to be one genre or another, then so be it.

This. Oh & i've always been a fan of metal and heavy music,
hopefully i can transfer some of that influence into my dubstep
for some heavy sounds.

Trance, orchestral, cheesy ass techno

just had fun with it really

I still make some house music here and there and I also made hip hop.

Hypefiend wrote:yea well house is all just synchopated (well at least I think thats the right term to put it, correct me if you will) which you want consistency in the track so it doesn't seem repetitive but it really is. Like what you said deadmau5 keeps it chill very repetitive but I mean it's not bad at all. It is quite easy to produce house. just the four to the floor beat for 30 seconds with some hihat pattern, some part of your bassline/stab/ whatever comes at the drop, sweep up, some funky blips, and maybe some other stuff you would want to add in there. I find dubstep a lot harder to produce since its all about making unique basslines now that are interesting too and original to actually get noticed or get fans. The plain ole lfo to filter cutoff sine/square wave sound is kind of done with its all about more sound processing and whatnot well at least for brostep. Alot of people still enjoy Loefah, Phaelah, Kode9, Digital Mystikz and others which i respect and thats a different side of dubstep thats the Real Dubstep. sory if I am completely getting off topic ahaha and for the double post.

proper house doesnt really 'drop' though, the hard electro house kinda does, but like house isnt really about having intro, drop, breakdown, drop, outro. and you make it sound really easy to make house, but if you did what you said, it wouldnt be that interesting would it.

jaimelee wrote: You're correct about how you have to be completely unique, which makes it a much more open genre.
I enjoy dubstep much more based on that, can't just throw the same thing together every time.
Prefer listening to the older stuff, it much better in the creative sense as nobody was doing it at that time.
Ambience has always been the way, better structuring and variety to expand too.
Rather than the screeching mid-highs, just isn't nice to listen too.
Not putting down their work though, some amazing tracks in that area.

Mau5 likes his build-ups, but it goes right back at times.

and i wouldnt say house is the same thing every time, just because it has a four to the floor beat, doesnt mean every house beat is the same, it just means most have a kick on every beat, you then gotta add percussion that is interesting, and syncopated, and maybe swung a bit to give the track some groove, the obviously you have everything else in the track. i mean house is a pretty open genre, i mean what would you say are the main characteristics of house to make it not open?

Hypefiend wrote:Loefah, Kode9, Digital Mystikz and others which i respect and thats a different side of dubstep thats the Real Dubstep. sory if I am completely getting off topic ahaha and for the double post.

Ive never heard any of these guys use a typical lfo-to-square/sine before? Usually very interesting sub-shapes.... Which is what it sounds like you think goes on there...

Like, correct me if Im wrong, but everyone always says that, and Ive never heard a pure sine once in all the years of listening to DMZ/Hyperdub... I dont know about Phaelah because Ive never listened, but, with the ones I left up there, I tihnk your accusing them of using plain sines and squares out of lack of ever actually hearing their tunes... Have you ever listened to DMZ/Kode9's records?

^^What Skimpi said

Its easy to do anything badly, which funnily enough is what i tell people when they say it must be easy/hard to write electronic music. For content: Started making hiphop I guess, then breaky stuff then into dubstep and midtempo gear mainly. I make whatever feels right, its just that around 112-116 and 140 gives me the right space for my style.

rap/hip hop/techno/house/pop

Bad acid techno with porn samples, I think I used a sample which repeated "I've got 2 dicks in my ass" or something.

Moved onto house and then dubstep.

Still do lots of different bits, but I've found techno to be the most dfficult to get right.

Basic A wrote:

Hypefiend wrote:Loefah, Kode9, Digital Mystikz and others which i respect and thats a different side of dubstep thats the Real Dubstep. sory if I am completely getting off topic ahaha and for the double post.

Ive never heard any of these guys use a typical lfo-to-square/sine before? Usually very interesting sub-shapes.... Which is what it sounds like you think goes on there...

Like, correct me if Im wrong, but everyone always says that, and Ive never heard a pure sine once in all the years of listening to DMZ/Hyperdub... I dont know about Phaelah because Ive never listened, but, with the ones I left up there, I tihnk your accusing them of using plain sines and squares out of lack of ever actually hearing their tunes... Have you ever listened to DMZ/Kode9's records?

i didn't mean them ahah I'm just saying those guys pioneered dubstep along with Skream and others... and I meant that for me house is easier to produce than dubstep

Hypefiend wrote:

jaydot wrote:

jaimelee wrote:
I find it very straineous the amount of pinpoint accuracy that goes into making House drum tracks to stop them feeling empty and repetitive.

Yeah they're busier than dubstep drums... but it is hard to get a variang house beat. Listen to say some Deadmau5 for want of a better example and there's a lot of repitition there

yea well house is all just synchopated (well at least I think thats the right term to put it, correct me if you will) which you want consistency in the track so it doesn't seem repetitive but it really is. Like what you said deadmau5 keeps it chill very repetitive but I mean it's not bad at all. It is quite easy to produce house. just the four to the floor beat for 30 seconds with some hihat pattern, some part of your bassline/stab/ whatever comes at the drop, sweep up, some funky blips, and maybe some other stuff you would want to add in there. I find dubstep a lot harder to produce since its all about making unique basslines now that are interesting too and original to actually get noticed or get fans. The plain ole lfo to filter cutoff sine/square wave sound is kind of done with its all about more sound processing and whatnot well at least for brostep. Alot of people still enjoy Loefah, Phaelah, Kode9, Digital Mystikz and others which i respect and thats a different side of dubstep thats the Real Dubstep. sory if I am completely getting off topic ahaha and for the double post.

You're right, house is pretty easy to produce (I've given it a dabble myself) although no genre of any music is "easy" to produce some are easier than others. Like dnb for example took me a while to get my head around (still can't make it lol)