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Re: Choosing a producing style

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:17 pm
by Fused Productions
jaydot wrote:Don't make conscious choices about what style to produce, just let it flow naturally as your tune progress. You might start to think oh, I can't do such and such cos it HAS to fit in with x genre. You can never limit yourself, just flow. And before long your style will ring true anyway unless you're like me that jumps from one style and genre to a next like a blue ass fly.
Haha yamon, I really get where you are heading :)

Re: Choosing a producing style

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:26 pm
by kaiori breathe
On getting 'big':
Fused Productions wrote: Do I have to specify in a kind off sound to get big
You can't get 'big' without appealing to what the public want, and considering that most people's idea of eclecticism is listen to both Rhianna and Britney Spears you're already at a disadvantage in writing dubstep so no, you really can't afford to write in multiple sub-genres of it. To be honest, if you want to get big this is a terrible way to do it in general. Just start writing pop songs man, here:
I-V-IV-V < that's all you need to know.

You could do that, or there's the slightly harder way which would be to figure out what the next underground genre that'll be massacred and fed to the public in pieces is going to be (pro tip: it's not dubstep) and jump on that band wagon instead. Then do what every great record label has been doing for years, write to a formula, give the people what they want and ride that I-V-IV-V all the way to the top serving up a watered down version of whatever that underground genre might be.

Good luck!

On Style:

I don't think you choose a production style. You can make a decision to write DnB or you decide to write filthy dubstep, or deep dubstep or whatever, but either way the genre choice is really something different from your 'production style' I think. Your production style is something you inherently have. Although, if you're just starting out you probably haven't found it yet, it's there though and you'll see it creeping through in slithers for a while until you really get a good grasp on what you're doing. You can decide to write in any genre you want, but you'll always be lending little touches to whatever you create that are inherently yours and difficult to imitate by anybody else, over time it will evolve, I think it's probably a hard thing to really change instantly because I think a lot of it is going on subconsciously, it has a lot to do with your tastes in music and what you listen to and how those things imprint upon you. If you listen to black metal for a month you'll probably notice a movement towards darker sounds and harmonies that you didn't like before, equally if you listen to liquid drum and bass for a month you'll probably notice a change towards slightly more graceful piano melodies.

Growing up I was a massive video game nerd and I was really into the soundtracks for those especially the final fantasy ones, so there are certain chord progressions and piano melody lines that I'm really prone to using because they come essentially from my memories of the FFVII soundtrack and how it made me feel, equally, growing up I played a lot of 'shred' stuff like Joe Satriani and the likes, so I'm partial to dropping modal guitar lines in here and there, and my percussion is very influenced by Synkro. Thing is the music I make is more than the sum of it's parts, as yours will be and most of the people's here is, because my style isn't just defined by those three things and my choices to emulate them to some degree, it's changed in tiny degrees every day by the things I listen to and the experiences I have.

I dunno those are just my thoughts on style, hopefully they make a bit of sense. Basically I'm saying I don't think you don't choose a style - you can choose a genre, but not a style as it's already there and it's the result of your experiences, what you like musically and it will just flow out naturally when you really know what you're doing.

Re: Choosing a producing style

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:26 pm
by deadly_habit
kaiori breathe wrote:I dunno those are just my thoughts on style, hopefully they make a bit of sense. Basically I'm saying I don't think you don't choose a style - you can choose a genre, but not a style as it's already there and it's the result of your experiences, what you like musically and it will just flow out naturally when you really know what you're doing.
this
why i have no use for people who want nothing to sound exactly like whoever is popular in the now and a map to that sound rather than developing their own and forging their own way rather than cloning whatever is big.

Re: Choosing a producing style

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:45 pm
by Fused Productions
kaiori breathe wrote:On getting 'big':
Fused Productions wrote: Do I have to specify in a kind off sound to get big
You can't get 'big' without appealing to what the public want, and considering that most people's idea of eclecticism is listen to both Rhianna and Britney Spears you're already at a disadvantage in writing dubstep so no, you really can't afford to write in multiple sub-genres of it. To be honest, if you want to get big this is a terrible way to do it in general. Just start writing pop songs man, here:
I-V-IV-V < that's all you need to know.

You could do that, or there's the slightly harder way which would be to figure out what the next underground genre that'll be massacred and fed to the public in pieces is going to be (pro tip: it's not dubstep) and jump on that band wagon instead. Then do what every great record label has been doing for years, write to a formula, give the people what they want and ride that I-V-IV-V all the way to the top serving up a watered down version of whatever that underground genre might be.

Good luck!

On Style:

I don't think you choose a production style. You can make a decision to write DnB or you decide to write filthy dubstep, or deep dubstep or whatever, but either way the genre choice is really something different from your 'production style' I think. Your production style is something you inherently have. Although, if you're just starting out you probably haven't found it yet, it's there though and you'll see it creeping through in slithers for a while until you really get a good grasp on what you're doing. You can decide to write in any genre you want, but you'll always be lending little touches to whatever you create that are inherently yours and difficult to imitate by anybody else, over time it will evolve, I think it's probably a hard thing to really change instantly because I think a lot of it is going on subconsciously, it has a lot to do with your tastes in music and what you listen to and how those things imprint upon you. If you listen to black metal for a month you'll probably notice a movement towards darker sounds and harmonies that you didn't like before, equally if you listen to liquid drum and bass for a month you'll probably notice a change towards slightly more graceful piano melodies.

Growing up I was a massive video game nerd and I was really into the soundtracks for those especially the final fantasy ones, so there are certain chord progressions and piano melody lines that I'm really prone to using because they come essentially from my memories of the FFVII soundtrack and how it made me feel, equally, growing up I played a lot of 'shred' stuff like Joe Satriani and the likes, so I'm partial to dropping modal guitar lines in here and there, and my percussion is very influenced by Synkro. Thing is the music I make is more than the sum of it's parts, as yours will be and most of the people's here is, because my style isn't just defined by those three things and my choices to emulate them to some degree, it's changed in tiny degrees every day by the things I listen to and the experiences I have.

I dunno those are just my thoughts on style, hopefully they make a bit of sense. Basically I'm saying I don't think you don't choose a style - you can choose a genre, but not a style as it's already there and it's the result of your experiences, what you like musically and it will just flow out naturally when you really know what you're doing.
:z: don't think I will ever think anything else, without having what you said in the back of my head! That was so well written and thought throug!
Thanks man

Re: Choosing a producing style

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:38 pm
by Dystinkt
Listen to as much that isnt dubstep that you can, youll find your own style will occur naturally over time.

Re: Choosing a producing style

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:23 pm
by deadly_habit
Cheeky wrote:Listen to as much that isnt dubstep that you can, youll find your own style will occur naturally over time.
pretty much
style and vibes come from outside influences especially what you listen to can influence this, why i rarely listen to dubstep since i don't want to draw influence from it even subconsciously when i'm making it

Re: Choosing a producing style

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:32 pm
by hifi
produce what genre you feel would be the most fun and what genre you really feel like making. And also listen to a bunch of different genres so that you can get some influences. then just make a track without even thinking of what genre you want to make then see what comes out of it.