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Duffman wrote:I read the title as Dejan Stankovic and was like wtf

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(Pada) wrote:

Duffman wrote:I read the title as Dejan Stankovic and was like wtf

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me too!

Duffman wrote:I read the title as Dejan Stankovic and was like wtf

>_>

noam wrote:

knell wrote:

ketamine wrote: Human science will not break through the walls of our Container (this Universe) because the same being that created it has said its physically impossible, and made it like that.

when my grandad was in school, they told him without a doubt that the atom could not be split, that it was the only solid block of existence. You're only limiting yourself by thinking like this.

shut up Pars...

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ketamine wrote:

knell wrote:

ketamine wrote: Human science will not break through the walls of our Container (this Universe) because the same being that created it has said its physically impossible, and made it like that.

when my grandad was in school, they told him without a doubt that the atom could not be split, that it was the only solid block of existence. You're only limiting yourself by thinking like this.

I agree and get what you’re saying in general. I find this stuff mind-blowingly interesting myself. And, although I sounded like it, I really wasn’t trying to be negative on the research itself, I was just questioning any practical future application of it.

In other words: spend billions on something useful, like Earthquake detection, or new Fuel/Power source. Instead of LHC’s looking for darkmater, brane universes and other dimensions we probably can’t get into even if they’re there. That’s all I meant. What do you think about that?

nowaysj wrote:We need to lose a huge chunk of the human population or find a new energy source. Bottom line. Personally, I'm inclined to find a new energy source and see what other planets are like.

Duffman wrote:I read the title as Dejan Stankovic and was like wtf

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test recordings wrote:

nowaysj wrote:We need to lose a huge chunk of the human population or find a new energy source. Bottom line. Personally, I'm inclined to find a new energy source and see what other planets are like.

We could just tap in to the 7.8Hz field that the earth's bathed in naturally, check out 'primordial energy generator' and see what you think. It is possible technically as you can draw a voltage from AM radio signals, in the '50s people used to charge batteries off ham radio operator signals if they werer strong enough apparently.

nowaysj wrote:

test recordings wrote:

nowaysj wrote:We need to lose a huge chunk of the human population or find a new energy source. Bottom line. Personally, I'm inclined to find a new energy source and see what other planets are like.

We could just tap in to the 7.8Hz field that the earth's bathed in naturally, check out 'primordial energy generator' and see what you think. It is possible technically as you can draw a voltage from AM radio signals, in the '50s people used to charge batteries off ham radio operator signals if they werer strong enough apparently.

If this was viable, I believe people would be doing it. I got some homies that try to live off of the grid, smart peoples, they use wind and water to generate power, but not primordial energy. I believe they would if they could.

nowaysj wrote:My mind is relatively open brub, trust me on that one! I'd say I'm firmly in the tin hat realm, hehe, for better or worse.

There is a reason why electricity was understood when it was in our history, though. As I'm sure you're well aware, there is evidence that people were playing with electricity a couple of thousand years ago, but it never went anywhere because the requisite surrounding/supporting technologies weren't present.

Science is so competitive now, I believe if this was easily achievable, some scientist, somewhere, would be doing this and reporting their reproducible results. Think we need a better theoretical understanding, as well as increased technological capabilities.

But if I can get free energy now, please let me know, I drop a couple hundo a month on juice!

test recordings wrote:

nowaysj wrote:My mind is relatively open brub, trust me on that one! I'd say I'm firmly in the tin hat realm, hehe, for better or worse.

There is a reason why electricity was understood when it was in our history, though. As I'm sure you're well aware, there is evidence that people were playing with electricity a couple of thousand years ago, but it never went anywhere because the requisite surrounding/supporting technologies weren't present.

Science is so competitive now, I believe if this was easily achievable, some scientist, somewhere, would be doing this and reporting their reproducible results. Think we need a better theoretical understanding, as well as increased technological capabilities.

But if I can get free energy now, please let me know, I drop a couple hundo a month on juice!

I wouldn't assume anything, most physicists might be stuck in a paradigm that stipulates that it isn't possible because it doesn't exist. Do you know how science works? As based on Descartian empricism it's like playing dot to dot with what is known to be true, it's based literally on geometry for connecting and segmenting the universe. Not all science works like that, however, and there are other methods. Things may be 'out of sight', as it were, and so they are not being looked for currently.
Also, maybe more importantly, scientists train each other to think like their predecessors so they basically all think the same way. This is both good and bad as it means new scientists will be proficient in necessary methods of inquiry but that they will think the same as who taught them generally - if their predecessors missed something they too are, unfortunately, quite likely to do so themselves. It's where the terms 'paradigm' and 'pradigm shift' come from. Check out Thomas Kuhn if you're interested since he's the first person to think of science in a reflexive way to reveal that it's not a linear process involved in logical thinking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Struct ... evolutions

nowaysj wrote:All true, but I still stand by my notion that if it was easily achievable, it would have been done, or would be under some type of serious research. There are plenty of renegades.

test recordings wrote:

nowaysj wrote:My mind is relatively open brub, trust me on that one! I'd say I'm firmly in the tin hat realm, hehe, for better or worse.

There is a reason why electricity was understood when it was in our history, though. As I'm sure you're well aware, there is evidence that people were playing with electricity a couple of thousand years ago, but it never went anywhere because the requisite surrounding/supporting technologies weren't present.

Science is so competitive now, I believe if this was easily achievable, some scientist, somewhere, would be doing this and reporting their reproducible results. Think we need a better theoretical understanding, as well as increased technological capabilities.

But if I can get free energy now, please let me know, I drop a couple hundo a month on juice!

I wouldn't assume anything, most physicists might be stuck in a paradigm that stipulates that it isn't possible because it doesn't exist. Do you know how science works? As based on Descartian empricism it's like playing dot to dot with what is known to be true, it's based literally on geometry for connecting and segmenting the universe. Not all science works like that, however, and there are other methods. Things may be 'out of sight', as it were, and so they are not being looked for currently.
Also, maybe more importantly, scientists train each other to think like their predecessors so they basically all think the same way. This is both good and bad as it means new scientists will be proficient in necessary methods of inquiry but that they will think the same as who taught them generally - if their predecessors missed something they too are, unfortunately, quite likely to do so themselves. It's where the terms 'paradigm' and 'pradigm shift' come from. Check out Thomas Kuhn if you're interested since he's the first person to think of science in a reflexive way to reveal that it's not a linear process involved in logical thinking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Struct ... evolutions

nowaysj wrote:Hook a brub up, I need a cool 1kw/h.