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Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:41 pm
by samurai
Hypefiend wrote:samurai wrote:I never save patches in my synths. I just save everything as a wav file. so I have a folder full of sounds I've created. if you are working on a larger project (ie. not just a single song) then it can be nice to have particular sounds (even if they are altered) spanning across various tunes. this can help to tie the whole project together.
that's not so much of a great idea buddy. if you save the patch you can come back and modulate it and twiddle with it while with a wav file you can just resample it. i would have a bounced version and a saved patch so it's the best of both worlds.
I know it's a bit of an annoying habit I've gotten into tho. I used to save synth patches but I found that I would rarely if ever return to them. the only patches I save are reason combinator patches, and reaktor ensembles, but that's usually because I'm usually trying to create something that I can use in multiple situations.
I do a lot of resampling anyway, and I usually have heavy effect chains going on, so that leads me to saving project files more-so than individual synth patches. for example I think I have less than 10 patches saved for malstrom, subtractor and thor (reason synths) but I have an entire folder of project files just dedicated to sound design. same with vst synths. probably less than 5 synth patches saved overall but tons of renoise project folders saved.
I think I need to force myself into the habit of saving presets.
Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:00 pm
by nowaysj
I sometimes save presets, but never come back to them, so haven't really fallen into the habit of saving them. For my self that is. If I'm working on a project, will save just about everything I do.
Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:36 am
by Atac
I wouldn't say I reuse my samples. I would consider it rebuilding and improving.
Most samples (drums, basslines, pads) that I've made, I will reuse. But when I use them again, I resample them, change them, improve them.
This way, I am innovating and improving my sound. Why not recycle a good patch into something great?
My goal is to start out with a violin, and end up with an orchestra. But they will both share properties that can be categorized as "my sound".
Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:01 am
by hifi
Atac wrote:I wouldn't say I reuse my samples. I would consider it rebuilding and improving.
Most samples (drums, basslines, pads) that I've made, I will reuse. But when I use them again, I resample them, change them, improve them.
This way, I am innovating and improving my sound. Why not recycle a good patch into something great?
My goal is to start out with a violin, and end up with an orchestra. But they will both share properties that can be categorized as "my sound".
kind of what I do. i have a patch saved in one of my synths then i will eventually come back to it and make it better.
Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:13 pm
by thefrim
Hypefiend wrote:now don't get me wrong i like a lot of there songs but you could make a sound and just go from there and just change up the drums everytime just rinse out the same synth patches. i am waiting to do that aha will be a lot easier making songs and people will know that is my track as well.
Its a lot more challenging to be able to make tunes with DIFFERENT synth patches and drums every time but have each tune still be very recognisable as being by the artist. Example: Cookie Monsta, Coki, Jakes, etc
Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:18 am
by Dystinkt
thefrim wrote:Hypefiend wrote:now don't get me wrong i like a lot of there songs but you could make a sound and just go from there and just change up the drums everytime just rinse out the same synth patches. i am waiting to do that aha will be a lot easier making songs and people will know that is my track as well.
Its a lot more challenging to be able to make tunes with DIFFERENT synth patches and drums every time but have each tune still be very recognisable as being by the artist. Example: Cookie Monsta, Coki, Jakes, etc
with Coki and Jakes its their modulations on their bass that are often similar in certain ways
Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:04 am
by hifi
thefrim wrote:Hypefiend wrote:now don't get me wrong i like a lot of there songs but you could make a sound and just go from there and just change up the drums everytime just rinse out the same synth patches. i am waiting to do that aha will be a lot easier making songs and people will know that is my track as well.
Its a lot more challenging to be able to make tunes with DIFFERENT synth patches and drums every time but have each tune still be very recognisable as being by the artist. Example: Cookie Monsta, Coki, Jakes, etc
yes I have been doing that a lot lately since I haven't found a definitive sound but i probably will continue to do so since I usually like a different style of dubstep every week and i usually change my mind a lot
Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:57 am
by FuzionDubstep
I normally make 2-3 tracks that are fairly similar and then make something completely different
I always like to switch it up.. I don't have any examples as I haven't released anything for a while because I'm trying to find a vocalist
but my newer tracks are completely different from the ones in my signiture..
I always try a new approach when i get gripped and then make some new synths for this then when I get bored ill make something else
although I nearly always use the same drums and I always use the same sub-bass and similar mastering suites changed slightly varying on the song
I'd say if I had one my style has a lot of trance/electro/house influences its quite melodic yet quite hard hitting everything I love in one track:)
Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:01 pm
by slothrop
I love the way that people talking about you 'individual style' on here almost always seem to focus obsessively on sound design. It's like, "I'm basically going to use the same melodies as everyone else, the same rhythms as everyone else, the same samples as everyone else, the same structure as everyone else, shit, I'd better EQ my snares a bit differently otherwise I'll sound really derivative..."
Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:41 pm
by Electric_Head
slothrop wrote:I love the way that people talking about you 'individual style' on here almost always seem to focus obsessively on sound design. It's like, "I'm basically going to use the same melodies as everyone else, the same rhythms as everyone else, the same samples as everyone else, the same structure as everyone else, shit, I'd better EQ my snares a bit differently otherwise I'll sound really derivative..."
I don`t think everyone has that attitude, just the lazy ones.
I try to change my drums, synths, etc with each track.
Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:28 pm
by hifi
slothrop wrote:I love the way that people talking about you 'individual style' on here almost always seem to focus obsessively on sound design. It's like, "I'm basically going to use the same melodies as everyone else, the same rhythms as everyone else, the same samples as everyone else, the same structure as everyone else, shit, I'd better EQ my snares a bit differently otherwise I'll sound really derivative..."
aren't you a negative nelly. you won't get anywhere with that attitude little guy
Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:39 pm
by ctang
what i do is make patches from my patches ive made, so you get different sounds. especially in albino all those waveforms and saturations to play with
Re: Innovating your sound
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:06 am
by hifi
ctang wrote:what i do is make patches from my patches ive made, so you get different sounds. especially in albino all those waveforms and saturations to play with
same here, most of the time i take a patch i have made in the past and completely butcher it so it sounds completely different and better. well at least in my ears it sounds better than how it sounded before. usually would do this to a shit sound