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Turnipish Thoughts wrote:I think its impossible for originality to die, we exist in an emergent system, it will go through constant fluid change. Specific genres may become stagnant and boundaries exist because of the limitations of specific tuning systems and the structures that have developed through the historical context of music. Because of that music seems to have developed into well established lines and similarity will develop by proxy. That doesn't mean originality is dying though, its relative of course, new combinations of used elements will come about and the experience of the piece will be different, original, as it were.

I think your point is more to do with apathy and a lack of desire to experiment with sound as an experience, which is more of a cultural axiom than a verity of social development. Some people don't want to be original in this musical sub-genre, at this point in time, But go and check out any musical theory forum you can find with google and plenty of people are being original right there. Go and sit in on a music degree seminar at your local college/uni and listen in on the pieces people are making there, take a look at the perspective being taught to those students, one of understanding the necessity for originality, of learning the framework of theory enough to be able to apply inspiration when it hits and weave a personal uniqueness into a piece. Originality still lives very strongly in music, it always will. The argument then is down to context, because i agree with you on one hand but on the other i don't because the bigger picture remains unchanged.

kaiori breathe wrote:"is originality dead/dying" is one of those ridiculous cyclical statements that get uttered by those who can't conceive the vast possibilities music and sound offer to them, and sometimes by people with writers block... and critics who have nothing in particular to moan about.

People have been saying "originality is dead" since the inception of art. Since people put paintbrush to cave wall and drew a stick figure killing a gazelle some douche was in the corner saying "well that's it I guess, art's over, everyone go home, originality is dead"... Although considering their linguistic capabilities it was probably more like "gruh uuuhhhhh AHHHHHH!"

As long as people continue to breed originality will exist.

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cloud capture wrote:our species is just too fucking creatively awesome for anything like that to ever happen.

nowaysj wrote:Ha, that's where you went wrong, dubstep doesn't exist.

nowaysj wrote:Ha, that's where you went wrong, dubstep doesn't exist.

nowaysj wrote:Ha, that's where you went wrong, dubstep doesn't exist.

Hurtdeer wrote:

nowaysj wrote:Ha, that's where you went wrong, dubstep doesn't exist.

dubstep is a construct, an illusion of the collective organisation of moving air in certain specific weights

there's never been anything original about moving air






except farting which is kind of funny

Turnipish Thoughts wrote:

Hurtdeer wrote:

nowaysj wrote:Ha, that's where you went wrong, dubstep doesn't exist.

dubstep is a construct, an illusion of the collective organisation of moving air in certain specific weights

there's never been anything original about moving air






except farting which is kind of funny

The concept of air is in itself an internal abstract, as is the idea of weight. Nothing exists, in as much as we can comprehend, external to our subjective internal entirely abstract experience of reality. Everything is one big oscillating field of energy and the fallacy is the language i have used to describe the concept is also part of the illusion. No more than an aspect of an illusion used to express another aspect of the same thing.

The same goes for originality, if all that exists is imagination and imagination is limitless, and if collective imagination is what we agree on as being the social construct of objective reality, (all-be-it restricted locally rather loosely by anthropological conditionality,) then imagination has free reign to reflect in upon itself and evolve there-in un-challenged by all but its own perception of self doubt. So of course, originality is never dying, not until there is no consciousness left to create its own experience.

innit. I think farts are funny too

Turnipish Thoughts wrote:

Hurtdeer wrote:

nowaysj wrote:Ha, that's where you went wrong, dubstep doesn't exist.

dubstep is a construct, an illusion of the collective organisation of moving air in certain specific weights

there's never been anything original about moving air






except farting which is kind of funny

The concept of air is in itself an internal abstract, as is the idea of weight. Nothing exists, in as much as we can comprehend, external to our subjective internal entirely abstract experience of reality. Everything is one big oscillating field of energy and the fallacy is the language i have used to describe the concept is also part of the illusion. No more than an aspect of an illusion used to express another aspect of the same thing.

The same goes for originality, if all that exists is imagination and imagination is limitless, and if collective imagination is what we agree on as being the social construct of objective reality, (all-be-it restricted locally rather loosely by anthropological conditionality,) then imagination has free reign to reflect in upon itself and evolve there-in un-challenged by all but its own perception of self doubt. So of course, originality is never dying, not until there is no consciousness left to create its own experience.

innit. I think farts are funny too