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Re: How to make Dub Drum Beat Shuffle, and DubStep Music

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:24 pm
by Nomad76
First thanks for all the advice everyone gave me.

I spent the last week just playing with the ES2, and trying out the demo versions of VI's. Truthfully, I found Massive to be the easiest for me to use and to be creative with. I could make ether one of them wobble, but massive had a much better user interface. The ES2 was very functional, just confusing, and more complicated. On massive, I especially liked the graphic way in which you could program envelopes on massive. and the ease at which you can apply modulators and automation to the different parameters. I also try'd the sylenth1 demo. It sounded awesome and surprised me.

This soundcloud is my first attempt / practice at dubstep in logic after reading your advice. It is not mixed. I ended up using massive for my wobble. I didnt really know how to cut up or process the vocal sample though. Any suggestions or input would be appreciated. Also what type of reverb is good to use for the dubstep sound?

Soundcloud

~Nomad~

Re: How to make Dub Drum Beat Shuffle, and DubStep Music

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:38 pm
by CBK81
Just go on and pick up Massive. It gets a lot of flack around here, but it is a great synth that does many things well and some things better than anything else.

Re: How to make Dub Drum Beat Shuffle, and DubStep Music

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:05 am
by Irvs
Hope this helps

HOW TO MAKE DUBSTEP!




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Re: How to make Dub Drum Beat Shuffle, and DubStep Music

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:16 am
by nftfhx
welcome to the forum!
seeing as you've supposedly only known dubstep has existed for a few weeks, your first attempt is really really positive!
try and vary up your synths to make it all a little more exciting, even layering them can be cool!
best of luck bro, keep practising:)

Re: How to make Dub Drum Beat Shuffle, and DubStep Music

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:55 am
by Toric
Hey OP! I can help you if you'd like. Give me a message and I'll help you get that shufflebeat going in Logic. I'm a logic user myself!

AND LOL JR! C'mon man! Atleast tell him that massive is related to FM8. FM synthesis is way complicated, but JR is right. if you have the patience to learn, you should definatly try to learn FM synths. It's a lot of work though!

Re: How to make Dub Drum Beat Shuffle, and DubStep Music

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:07 pm
by jobbanaught
140 bpm

2 bars

Kick on 1, snare on 3

add more kicks and experiment

rides equally spaced in between

add open and closed hats randomly and experiment

important: change velocity on drum sounds for variety

try short triplet roles

try groove quantisation, or even better learn about shuffle

turn off the grid

try this for a week and you'll see :h:

Re: How to make Dub Drum Beat Shuffle, and DubStep Music

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:47 am
by Rexkt
i can def give some ideas for the shuffling sound, on both your drum patterns and synths. for percussion, its just balance of whats use and placement and velocity, never forget to use velocity, though you dont have to all the time if you create the shuffle by hand. another thing, im not big on grooves, if you zoom way in and add a groove, youll see that all its doing is very slightly off beating your placements.....i do this by hand...but then again, grooves are just a quick way of doing things so to each his own.

as for synths and wobbles, theres a lot of ways to shuffle it, using LFOs and modulation.

1 modulate the pitch, to explain in a half bar you wobble 4 times, drop the pitch on the 2nd and 4th wobble slightly....shuffle.
2 attach an LFO to the LFO your using on the filter cut off or whatever else it is your using the LFO on.
on the LFO attached to the LFO, set the rate to half of what the main LFO is. attach the second LFO to a crossfade on the first, to make it
jump between wave and slightly put the second wave off of the first a little (this is if your synth has crossfade waves on 1 lfo)
3 LFO on the pitch or octave of the synth and mess with it till you have that shuffle.
4 some synths you make will naturally change pitch slightly when the LFO dives on whatever you have it attached to,
just experiment with the synth to see what causes this and use it.