yeah i agree with you, the first mix and the last mix are the bests. I did some mistakes in the middle part but i am too lazy to do it againDustBrigade wrote:@Kixo
Nice one! Thank you for making that video, it was interesting. The first mixes felt solid. I didnt like the two that you dropped straight in so much, altho you made the last one very interesting by getting the two tunes together very nicely!
I have alot to learn from people like you.
Keep it up!
Harry Sword wrote:OK, here are some tips. There is no right or wrong, just do what works for you, but this is what works for me.kixo wrote:Hi there, i mix vinyl only and i can't even think of doing it differently,
check my last mix: ATTACK OF THE SONIC OCTOPUS
http://www.mixcloud.com/kixo/attack-of-the-sonic-octopus/
If any of you have advices or secret tips for mixing vinyl better, share it!
for exemple, do you drop the vinyl directly in the mix ( you know back n forward in tempo and drop) or do you drop it in the headphone and then introduce it in the mix via faders (pretty hard to explain this in english for me)?
I always que a track up in the headphones first to ensure it is the correct speed, and cross reference it with the outgoing tune. I never just drop a track straight in, as if it is out of time, your gonna be correcting it in the mix, in real time, with both faders up.
I try never to touch a record once in the mix, if you can avoid it, always use the pitch chase using the pitch shifters to slow up/down. Much smoother.
Watch your eq's. As you bring a track in, the eq's on an incoming track should be brought up gradually. Likewise, the eq's on an outgoing track can be brought down gradually.
like everyone else has said...it's all about what works for you. here is some of my approach. for me it depends on the track. but the first thing i always do unless i know the tracks to be dead matches is cue the track in my headphones and give it a listen for 4 or 8 bars to make sure i'm on time. with some tracks i may just bring the faders/eq in from here, but more often than not i rewind the track to the cue point and drop the vinyl directly into the mix at the appropriate spot. from years of mixing hip hop i'm pretty in the habit of stabbing the one beat and dropping on time as i cut in the fader.dublerium wrote:Harry Sword wrote:OK, here are some tips. There is no right or wrong, just do what works for you, but this is what works for me.kixo wrote:Hi there, i mix vinyl only and i can't even think of doing it differently,
check my last mix: ATTACK OF THE SONIC OCTOPUS
http://www.mixcloud.com/kixo/attack-of-the-sonic-octopus/
If any of you have advices or secret tips for mixing vinyl better, share it!
for exemple, do you drop the vinyl directly in the mix ( you know back n forward in tempo and drop) or do you drop it in the headphone and then introduce it in the mix via faders (pretty hard to explain this in english for me
I always que a track up in the headphones first to ensure it is the correct speed, and cross reference it with the outgoing tune. I never just drop a track straight in, as if it is out of time, your gonna be correcting it in the mix, in real time, with both faders up.
I try never to touch a record once in the mix, if you can avoid it, always use the pitch chase using the pitch shifters to slow up/down. Much smoother.
Watch your eq's. As you bring a track in, the eq's on an incoming track should be brought up gradually. Likewise, the eq's on an outgoing track can be brought down gradually.
Like you said it's up to you, I do whatever feels good at the time, i've gotten to the point where I can comfortably bring tracks straight in, even if the are a little off can correct that no trouble at all. Hard to give advice, it's more about finding your own natural style rather than doing what someone else is suited too.
very interesting post, you wrote about most of the things i was wandering about,Mr_Frost wrote:
like everyone else has said...it's all about what works for you. here is some of my approach. for me it depends on the track. but the first thing i always do unless i know the tracks to be dead matches is cue the track in my headphones and give it a listen for 4 or 8 bars to make sure i'm on time. with some tracks i may just bring the faders/eq in from here, but more often than not i rewind the track to the cue point and drop the vinyl directly into the mix at the appropriate spot. from years of mixing hip hop i'm pretty in the habit of stabbing the one beat and dropping on time as i cut in the fader.
as for keeping time/beat matched i sometimes find it easier to get it close enough rather than dead perfect. you can waste a lot of time in the mix trying to get a track to stay in time for 32 bars. rather i'm happy to get my track to the point where it is just slightly off beat after 8 bars. what's nice about this is that as soon as the beat starts to slip you know exactly which record to nudge/pinch without thinking. on the other hand when you're getting the tracks super precise you don't know which record is playing a little faster so as the beat starts slipping your brain hears the difference but then your mind has to process which of the two tracks is actually the one you want to adjust and by then it's slipped even more.
and recently the biggest thing for me after coming back to real vinyl after mixing control vinyl with serato for a year, is set yourself up for success. i have all my records labeled on the sleeve with record speed 33/45 and bpm. on the records themselves i put a sticker on the label for the cue point and again write the speed of the record/bpm. this way i can very quickly dig through the crates, find what i want, where i want to cue and how much to adjust the pitch before i have even had to listen to my headphones.
also since there is no digital readout to tell you the bpm on your technics as your adjusting the pitch i made myself a quick reference chart for change in bpm with change in pitch. link below for my bpm spreadsheet if anyone is curious.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... utput=html
Mr_Frost wrote:i made this mix yesterday afternoon. two x technics >> rane ttm 56 recorded to audacity. it's not perfect, but it's worth a listen. fwiw worth this stuff in the 135 range i find much more of a challenge to mix than your regular ole 140 snare on the 3 halfstep track.
http://mixcrate.com/mix/76983/Mr-Frost-Dusty-Needle-Mix
Mr. Frost - Dusty Needle Mix
S_X - Wooo
Ramadanman - Glut
Boddika - Electron
Unknown - Sicko Cell
Visionist - Mr. 67
Girl Unit - IRL
Girl Unit - Ride it Every Time
Mount Kimbie - Sketch on Glass
Damu - 2010
Jamie Woon - Night Air (Ramadanman Refix)
kixo wrote:
for keeping the beat matched, i find it particularly hard when you're in a middle of a mix and when the tracks are at the same levels each, (especially when the tracks are similar)
fot the BPM i think i'll do the same as you (marking the vinyls), it's maybe a bit a "mathematic" way to mix (with the spreadsheet and all) but it sure can help you setting the pitch even before listening to the track in the headphones.
kixo wrote:Here is a vinyl only videomix i did today
only classics:
Tracklist:
Seven, Dial up
Digital mystikz, Eyez
Vivek, Roots
Kryptic minds, The fifth
Benton, Smash that badger
feel free to comment!
thanks, i record the sound directly from the mixer and i get the video from a camera, then i synchronize the two with a very simple software,Mr_Frost wrote:nice job with the video...i may have to make one of these...what are using just the built in software?
kixo wrote:Here is a vinyl only videomix i did today
only classics:
Tracklist:
Seven, Dial up
Digital mystikz, Eyez
Vivek, Roots
Kryptic minds, The fifth
Benton, Smash that badger
feel free to comment!