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Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:33 am
by SunkLo
Kes-Es wrote:
SunkLo wrote:Yeah drop tuning is so you can play power chords with one finger though! Just tremolo strum and slide your finger around lol
I'm like 90% sure it's more for stuff like this...
90% of that song didn't touch the bottom two strings :lol: Good thing though, cause they've still got 6 more!
Speaking of Ibanez 8 strings:

OP: Get that groove into a dubstep tune and you've won the internet :4:

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:37 pm
by Teknicyde
When did 'rock' and 'metal' become synonymous?

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:39 pm
by dogmancar
Teknicyde wrote:When did 'rock' and 'metal' become synonymous?
There obviously not I know they are totally different entities, and I'm not necessarily trying to produce ether. I'm just trying to give an idea of the type of sounds and feels I'm trying to recreate so I can get a bit of advice from people who have attempted to do comparable things in there own tunes.

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:43 pm
by ChadDub
hasezwei wrote:
RandoRando wrote:Excision & Downlink pulled it off nicely in this track from their newest ep
wow. that's pretty horrible. the video is clipping and the track is totally out of tune :o
You've never heard of distortion have you?

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:55 pm
by SunkLo
Shit is pretty hard clipped. Like the whole track, not just certain elements. Would you run a whole track through a distortion pedal? Not unless you're an idiot. Or excision apparently. The waveform is literally a brick. And it is out of tune... Makes me wonder how such a noob track can get hailed by fans or even released. Is there no one in the release chain that has half a brain to say "wait a minute dudes, this sounds like utter trash. Don't tell me it's meant to be that way cause it's 'artistic', it's just fuckin trash, redo it please."

Edit: Let alone the artists themselves realizing it's trash. Like if these producers are supposed to be "OMG Geniusss" why can't they tell when their basslines are out of tune with their vocals etc? Not like it's 1990 and there's no melodyne or decent pitch shifting algos to make things fit if you reeeeally needed that bassline exactly the way it is.

Plus the hardcore clipping and limiting, do they really think it sounds better? Like really really? Are they listening on an ipod speaker? If you can't tell when your tracks are limited to shit why would I bother listening to your songs?

It's like a digital artist who turns the contrast and saturation to max on all their work because "HOLY L00kZ k00l bro!"
It doesn't look cool, it looks like a toddler ingested a bunch of finger paint and vomited it into a box of legos.

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:07 am
by hasezwei
SunkLo wrote:Shit is pretty hard clipped. Like the whole track, not just certain elements. Would you run a whole track through a distortion pedal? Not unless you're an idiot. Or excision apparently. The waveform is literally a brick. And it is out of tune... Makes me wonder how such a noob track can get hailed by fans or even released. Is there no one in the release chain that has half a brain to say "wait a minute dudes, this sounds like utter trash. Don't tell me it's meant to be that way cause it's 'artistic', it's just fuckin trash, redo it please."
i think excision released it on his own label so basically, nope.
i usually rate excision if only for his growls n shit, but this tune is horribly horrible. shit even the hihats are clipping sometimes.

inb4 people distorting their hats because excision did it :lol:

@chad, theres lots of ultradistorted great music that's not clipping despite making excessive use of distortion.

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:11 am
by ChadDub
Well I didn't listen to but like 30 seconds and then I turned it off because it sucked, I'm just saying distortion does not equal clipping.

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:17 am
by SunkLo
Well technically... ;-)
Get to googling son!

I know what you mean though, distortion of discrete elements vs the whole track. In this case it's the whole damn track though, hitting the brick wall like a rocket propelled smart car, absolutely crumpled.

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:31 am
by excision
i couldnt care less whether you guys like the track or not, it was an experiment to do something different, and i will always try to make different kinds of tunes. But you guys have to be fucking thick if you are judging a mixdown based off some idiots youtube clip. The legit 320 version I uploaded to beatport sounds nothing like that distorted piece of shit

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:41 am
by ChadDub
Damn, it's weird how celebs just pop out of nowhere whenever there's a post about them. Do you/they just lurk until you have to stick up for yourselves?

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:42 am
by SunkLo
Hahah oh man I totally expected that. It being a youtube rip n everything. You got a 6th sense there. Some shit actually is clipped like that out of the gate though, sounds mental. It's really more of a testament to how much listeners are paying attention to things. If you can't notice when something's mad distorted how are you gonna notice quality in any other aspect? Producers are putting all this effort into depth and sound design and in the end it's just gonna end up on youtube compressed to hell, getting views by people who like the background image and can't be arsed to pay attention to the sound any more than to assess whether it sounds like cool shit they're familiar with. Retarded how listening is such a passive experience for some people.

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:43 am
by ChadDub
Way to totally change your tone and suck up :roll:

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:46 am
by jetpack
Here's a cool guitar sound...drop is at 1:00



Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:53 am
by dogmancar
excision wrote:i couldnt care less whether you guys like the track or not, it was an experiment to do something different, and i will always try to make different kinds of tunes. But you guys have to be fucking thick if you are judging a mixdown based off some idiots youtube clip. The legit 320 version I uploaded to beatport sounds nothing like that distorted piece of shit
Dude! Huge fan! Kinda shocked to see you on my thread haha.

Sorry everyone else. Just had to get that out there.

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:02 am
by SunkLo
Not changing my tone at all. Bass is still out of tune, still don't like the song. Sorry bro. Least the track wasn't actually run through a distortion pedal though eh?
He says he doesn't care what we think of it anyways so, dun matter right? Not to be a dick but if I was gonna suck up to someone, it'd be someone I listen to. Never heard that many Excision tracks, as I try to steer away from the brobot side of things.

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:03 am
by ChadDub
I doubt he'll come back to this thread, we hurt his feelings I guess.

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:07 am
by SunkLo
Robots don't have feelings, they have hydraulics.

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:19 am
by dogmancar
Yes! Now is where we discuss the highly likely possibility that all brosteppers are in fact robots. This is the real reason I started this thread.

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:27 am
by SunkLo
Sample yourself doing some squats.

Re: Rock inspired ideas

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:47 am
by dogmancar
SunkLo wrote:Sample yourself doing some squats.
I'm taking this to heart. Best tip ever.