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Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:41 am
by Electric_Head
wub wrote:10yrs ago a webpage took 10mins to load and I thought it was amazing.
Today a webpage takes 10secs to load and I call it a piece of shit.
Oh how I don`t miss the day I used to dial in with my 28.8 modem.
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:02 am
by WeMoveForward
The majority of the current population has been taken over by their ego. And this ego tells them they need more no matter how much they already have. Jezus never said a word about God or heaven . He preached about letting your ego go and find inner peace.
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:29 am
by soul dead
Dizzee Rascal will become Prime Minister with Jeremy Paxman as a Mandelson/Campbell/Darth Sidious style background figure.
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:52 am
by nicenice
false hope
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:36 am
by magma
The world is always in flux, but this seems like a particularly positive couple of years. The Internet has finally started flexing its muscle.
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:57 am
by nousd
according to general relativity
we're always falling
in the long run, not down
but away from & towards
each other & ephemeral crises
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:57 am
by isiahfire
magma wrote:The world is always in flux, but this seems like a particularly positive couple of years. The Internet has finally started flexing its muscle.
Yeah, I wonder whether the ubiqitious nature of the internet is amplifying this current sense of disquiet and making it seem more serious than previous unrest. Or perhaps most societies have always been on a knife-edge and the internet has provided a way of collectivising dissenters, meaning we stand on the edge of huge social reforms.
It seems unlikely to me that the status quo will change, but i'm pretty unhappy generally at the moment so that will undoubtably have a bearing on my outlook, which is careering towards complete nihilism at times. I think change needs to happen, it seems blaringly obvious to me that the way we live is unsustainable and unfair, but I cant see what would instigate reform in this country.
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:42 pm
by test_recordings
The Economist newspaper:
Greater integration of Europe, mainly centred on the 17 Euro countries which will form a coherent bloc that will allow them to dominate internal politics. Germany will likely provide the framework for internal management and France will attempt to be another dominant leader. This will help exclude more liberal states like the UK and the Scandinavian countries and allow more directive policies.
That isn't for certain either, though.
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From what else I have seen/read/heard:
In the further, if not far, future, the economic inequalities that have withered most pension savings and left lots of others unable to save, coupled with a shrinking working population and a growing aging one, will mean a crisis of massive proportions to sustain decent living standards.
Another could be a slack attempt at mitigating climate change resulting in an unneccessarily expensive bill for hurried work (the Stern Report said the faster we get things done the cheaper they will be).
Lack of provision for energy production means shortages. The best way to avoid this would be to stop using finite fossil fuels, encourage public transport as a system modelled on Japan's, have wholesale investment in efficient 'renewable' energy and make everything that uses some sort of power as efficient as it can possibly be.
Running out of resources to make things. Due to the unforeseen consequences of the manufacturing paradigm of disposability and cheap production at the expense of recycling the earth could well run out of usable resources. Manufacturing should be geared towards considering products' whole lifecycle including recycling at the end and non-toxic application of materials should be considered in all circumstances.
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:54 pm
by JBoy
The only reason america's fucked is because all these rich republicans believe god gave them the right to be rich and that they shouldnt have to pay taxes. The worlds always been fucked in some way or another and im sure it will keep plodding on this way for some time to come yet.
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:29 pm
by cityzen

JBoy from nowhere!
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:36 pm
by magma
isiahfire wrote:It seems unlikely to me that the status quo will change, but i'm pretty unhappy generally at the moment so that will undoubtably have a bearing on my outlook, which is careering towards complete nihilism at times. I think change needs to happen, it seems blaringly obvious to me that the way we live is unsustainable and unfair, but I cant see what would instigate reform in this country.
I agree that there is plenty to change, but I can't help but think the general trend for the last 1000 years or so has been incredibly positive. We don't get Typhoid from our drinking water, we don't get forced to work as effective-slaves in the Workhouse if we're poor, we're no longer at the mercy of elites who can decide to flip the country's religion overnight and start burning people... everyone gets an education, everyone gets healthcare, everyone gets access to things like the Citizen's Advice Bureau. We've got the European Court of Human Rights to back us up... but income is definitely still unfairly distributed and we're certainly not all born equal yet.
Progress is eternal - don't let the fact that there's more to come get you down.. it should be exciting to strive for. We've come a long way, baby...
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:33 pm
by clifford_-
cityzen wrote: 
JBoy from nowhere!
this! lol.
and as for this....
test recordings wrote: encourage public transport as a system modelled on Japan's
[video]ttp://
www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0A9-oUoMug&feature=related[/video]
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:07 pm
by isiahfire
magma wrote:isiahfire wrote:It seems unlikely to me that the status quo will change, but i'm pretty unhappy generally at the moment so that will undoubtably have a bearing on my outlook, which is careering towards complete nihilism at times. I think change needs to happen, it seems blaringly obvious to me that the way we live is unsustainable and unfair, but I cant see what would instigate reform in this country.
I agree that there is plenty to change, but I can't help but think the general trend for the last 1000 years or so has been incredibly positive. We don't get Typhoid from our drinking water, we don't get forced to work as effective-slaves in the Workhouse if we're poor, we're no longer at the mercy of elites who can decide to flip the country's religion overnight and start burning people... everyone gets an education, everyone gets healthcare, everyone gets access to things like the Citizen's Advice Bureau. We've got the European Court of Human Rights to back us up... but income is definitely still unfairly distributed and we're certainly not all born equal yet.
Progress is eternal - don't let the fact that there's more to come get you down.. it should be exciting to strive for. We've come a long way, baby...
Wise words man, I definitely needed a little shot of positivity today, thanks.
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:14 pm
by fractal
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:16 pm
by fractal
AllNightDayDream wrote:<iframe src="/forum/video.php?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk" frameborder="0" style="overflow:hidden; height:auto; max-width:540px"></iframe>
LOUIE KNOWS!!
his show is so great

Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:31 pm
by test_recordings
Okay then, most of Japan's public transport... though Tokyo is a slight anomaly given that it is (or was not so long ago) the most densely populated place on Earth (it overtook Mexico city to the top spot).
Still, can you imagine a station in London getting 5 million people through a day without any problems? Shinjuku does

Trains also run on time and get classed as 'late' if they're 1 minute out
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:35 pm
by DRTY
I reckon not a lot is gonna change. Infact probably nothing. Not for us (UK) anywhoo
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:47 pm
by nowaysj
isiahfire wrote:magma wrote:isiahfire wrote:It seems unlikely to me that the status quo will change, but i'm pretty unhappy generally at the moment so that will undoubtably have a bearing on my outlook, which is careering towards complete nihilism at times. I think change needs to happen, it seems blaringly obvious to me that the way we live is unsustainable and unfair, but I cant see what would instigate reform in this country.
I agree that there is plenty to change, but I can't help but think the general trend for the last 1000 years or so has been incredibly positive. We don't get Typhoid from our drinking water, we don't get forced to work as effective-slaves in the Workhouse if we're poor, we're no longer at the mercy of elites who can decide to flip the country's religion overnight and start burning people... everyone gets an education, everyone gets healthcare, everyone gets access to things like the Citizen's Advice Bureau. We've got the European Court of Human Rights to back us up... but income is definitely still unfairly distributed and we're certainly not all born equal yet.
Progress is eternal - don't let the fact that there's more to come get you down.. it should be exciting to strive for. We've come a long way, baby...
Wise words man, I definitely needed a little shot of positivity today, thanks.
Just happen to be based largely on fantasy rather than reality, bear that in mind if you are so inclined.
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:05 pm
by Anjin
[video]ttp://
www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0A9-oUoMug&feature=related[/video][/quote]
Oh my...

Really? Do you have to be on that train?
Re: Downfall of Society.
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:09 pm
by magma
nowaysj wrote:isiahfire wrote:magma wrote:isiahfire wrote:It seems unlikely to me that the status quo will change, but i'm pretty unhappy generally at the moment so that will undoubtably have a bearing on my outlook, which is careering towards complete nihilism at times. I think change needs to happen, it seems blaringly obvious to me that the way we live is unsustainable and unfair, but I cant see what would instigate reform in this country.
I agree that there is plenty to change, but I can't help but think the general trend for the last 1000 years or so has been incredibly positive. We don't get Typhoid from our drinking water, we don't get forced to work as effective-slaves in the Workhouse if we're poor, we're no longer at the mercy of elites who can decide to flip the country's religion overnight and start burning people... everyone gets an education, everyone gets healthcare, everyone gets access to things like the Citizen's Advice Bureau. We've got the European Court of Human Rights to back us up... but income is definitely still unfairly distributed and we're certainly not all born equal yet.
Progress is eternal - don't let the fact that there's more to come get you down.. it should be exciting to strive for. We've come a long way, baby...
Wise words man, I definitely needed a little shot of positivity today, thanks.
Just happen to be based largely on fantasy rather than reality, bear that in mind if you are so inclined.
No pleasing some people!
