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I seen this thing on TV where this has become a big problem in Japan, so the Gov there pay people to sit outside the doors of lazy people or hardcore gamers/internet addicts and try to coax them out for fun activities.

I dunno, I think it all comes down to having solid groups of friends. I would never sit around inside all day on a lovely summers day simply because I almost feel guilty and that I am cheating myself out of a better more enjoyable time by not making the effort to go out and see people.
I think it's a kind of sad reflection on society, particularly in places like Japan, Korea, where the done thing is to stay indoors and get good at computer games. I think that has to be coupled with negative experiences, because I can't see how it would manifest so rapidly.
I don't know what I am trying to say...
Different strokes for different folks I guess

hugh wrote:I dunno, I think it all comes down to having solid groups of friends. I would never sit around inside all day on a lovely summers day simply because I almost feel guilty and that I am cheating myself out of a better more enjoyable time by not making the effort to go out and see people.
I think it's a kind of sad reflection on society, particularly in places like Japan, Korea, where the done thing is to stay indoors and get good at computer games. I think that has to be coupled with negative experiences, because I can't see how it would manifest so rapidly.
I don't know what I am trying to say...
Different strokes for different folks I guess

True, also their cultural differences and the size of their population, the more people there is, the harder it is to make friends for some people, I know that sounds backwards but it's easy to loose a sense of belonging in big cities.

your mind is a computer and you can install better software.

linux?

hugh wrote:I dunno, I think it all comes down to having solid groups of friends.

i personally can only manage 5 friends (give or take a few). the rest are scenery.

parson wrote:your mind is a computer and you can install better software.

bang on the mark. anyone watch limitless..?!!

Electroshock therapy, forced mass synchronised exercise, compulsary healthy food and high work ethic...be all that your country wants you to be!

you sound like a good friend

Pedro Sánchez wrote:I seen this thing on TV where this has become a big problem in Japan, so the Gov there pay people to sit outside the doors of lazy people or hardcore gamers/internet addicts and try to coax them out for fun activities.

They do this in Korea as well.

crutch wrote:the only person that can truly change behaviors is themselves. there are tools however such as the book parson posted (which i havent read), nlp (debatable as it is just a money grabbing industry now), spiritual stuff, ect. there are countless books and teachers available. i think the important question you need to ask yourself is why are you so keen to change your friend? you need to make sure it is for the right reasons (intention is a powerful force). why do you hang out with him? basically some people seek weakness in people because it will mask their own insecuritys. dont. go towards the light.

or maybe you simply don't like to see your long standing mates fuck themselves so relentlessly. i don't believe in leaving any man behind but at the same time i don't believe in dead weight, so in the past i've alway put in my best effort before i've given up on a mate.

to the op: it sounds like your mate is indulging in very self-destructive and (probably) self-absorbed behaviour patterns. i can understand why you don't want to give up on him as, in my experience, this pattern tends to occur with more intelligent people and are usually very interesting conversationalists. so i believe you have the right idea by encouraging you friend to get outdoors exercising etc. hopefully this will allow him to gain new focus, or at least offer a distraction from the all too familiar inward thinking/self-absorbed mental processes that undoubtably occur when you veg on the sofa or stare passively at a screen all day. does your mate smoke ganj? i'm not one to get all high and mighty about it as i myself am a massive stoner but i know without doubt that cannabis demotivates these kind of people.

i genuinely hope ur mate does start heading towards the light. to quote immortal technique "hell is not a place you go if you're not a christian, its the failure of your lifes greatest ambition".

netics wrote:

crutch wrote:the only person that can truly change behaviors is themselves. there are tools however such as the book parson posted (which i havent read), nlp (debatable as it is just a money grabbing industry now), spiritual stuff, ect. there are countless books and teachers available. i think the important question you need to ask yourself is why are you so keen to change your friend? you need to make sure it is for the right reasons (intention is a powerful force). why do you hang out with him? basically some people seek weakness in people because it will mask their own insecuritys. dont. go towards the light.

or maybe you simply don't like to see your long standing mates fuck themselves so relentlessly. i don't believe in leaving any man behind but at the same time i don't believe in dead weight, so in the past i've alway put in my best effort before i've given up on a mate.

to the op: it sounds like your mate is indulging in very self-destructive and (probably) self-absorbed behaviour patterns. i can understand why you don't want to give up on him as, in my experience, this pattern tends to occur with more intelligent people and are usually very interesting conversationalists. so i believe you have the right idea by encouraging you friend to get outdoors exercising etc. hopefully this will allow him to gain new focus, or at least offer a distraction from the all too familiar inward thinking/self-absorbed mental processes that undoubtably occur when you veg on the sofa or stare passively at a screen all day. does your mate smoke ganj? i'm not one to get all high and mighty about it as i myself am a massive stoner but i know without doubt that cannabis demotivates these kind of people.

i genuinely hope ur mate does start heading towards the light. to quote immortal technique "hell is not a place you go if you're not a christian, its the failure of your lifes greatest ambition".

you're spot on with all of you're inferences there. he's a deep thinker and also is funny as hell. quite a rare ******

netics wrote:

crutch wrote:the only person that can truly change behaviors is themselves. there are tools however such as the book parson posted (which i havent read), nlp (debatable as it is just a money grabbing industry now), spiritual stuff, ect. there are countless books and teachers available. i think the important question you need to ask yourself is why are you so keen to change your friend? you need to make sure it is for the right reasons (intention is a powerful force). why do you hang out with him? basically some people seek weakness in people because it will mask their own insecuritys. dont. go towards the light.

or maybe you simply don't like to see your long standing mates fuck themselves so relentlessly. i don't believe in leaving any man behind but at the same time i don't believe in dead weight, so in the past i've alway put in my best effort before i've given up on a mate.

to the op: it sounds like your mate is indulging in very self-destructive and (probably) self-absorbed behaviour patterns. i can understand why you don't want to give up on him as, in my experience, this pattern tends to occur with more intelligent people and are usually very interesting conversationalists. so i believe you have the right idea by encouraging you friend to get outdoors exercising etc. hopefully this will allow him to gain new focus, or at least offer a distraction from the all too familiar inward thinking/self-absorbed mental processes that undoubtably occur when you veg on the sofa or stare passively at a screen all day. does your mate smoke ganj? i'm not one to get all high and mighty about it as i myself am a massive stoner but i know without doubt that cannabis demotivates these kind of people.

i genuinely hope ur mate does start heading towards the light. to quote immortal technique "hell is not a place you go if you're not a christian, its the failure of your lifes greatest ambition".

Mate the plants are looking a bit pale + people might see them from the window soon. When were you planning on getting back?

Ps like that IT quote, Reminds me of the Greek translation of the word sin, which is 'to miss the mark', as in to miss the point.
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