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Salvia is crazy. My weirdest trip was a bong hit at a festival. I fell back into the tent we were in and I had like an outer body experience where I was watching myself lying down in a never ending white room with my friend building a toy train track around me. It's something to try out once for sure but not a social drug at all. Probably best to have a sitter also as this video will show:

Someones never been to Beijing
it's 60 on 80 kms I wouldn't advise driving cause it will take u more then an hour (with extremely good traffic) if ur stuck in traffic it's easily 2-3 hours (to get to the centre not the other side that would double the time)

No offence but London is nothing compared to Beijing

jameshk wrote: Seriously though fuck salvia it's a horrible drug.

cannot stress this enough. why anyone would want to mess with a nightmarish dissociative is beyond me

mIrReN wrote:No offence but London is nothing compared to Beijing

At least we have freedom

Neptune wrote:

mIrReN wrote:No offence but London is nothing compared to Beijing

At least we have freedom

Except when the Victoria Line is closed.

knell wrote:

jameshk wrote: Seriously though fuck salvia it's a horrible drug.

cannot stress this enough. why anyone would want to mess with a nightmarish dissociative is beyond me

Explain, I've had no problems (chewing method).

Chewing did nothing but light headedness for me... i tried the x15 / x20 extracts, which sent me on a painful hellish ride through my own consciousness, leaving me broken and confused for days afterward, doubting everything that I saw or felt.

and then i did it again, same experience. I am almost certain that's what dying feels like.

wub wrote:Oh right, we're talking about time taken. Yeah, only way you're getting across London in 30mins is by flying.

Same for bejing

Skunkworks

knell wrote:Chewing did nothing but light headedness for me... i tried the x15 / x20 extracts, which sent me on a painful hellish ride through my own consciousness, leaving me broken and confused for days afterward, doubting everything that I saw or felt.

and then i did it again, same experience. I am almost certain that's what dying feels like.

Chewing worked for the original users of the plant though. I can imagine extracts of this stuff are crazy.

I have just sat for the last half an hour watching bad trip videos.

I'm never so much as putting ketchup on my chips anymore. I'm sticking to celery and tea. Nothing to harm me there.

i dont get the salvia haters, done it 4 or 5 times with 20x and had a fun one every time. half the times ive been sat there laughing like a little kid for 10 minutes and other times i have thought that peoples faces were on the front of a train like thomas the tank engine...
maybe the 20x i get isnt the same as 20x others get? maybe i dont smoke as much as others?

knell wrote:

jameshk wrote: Seriously though fuck salvia it's a horrible drug.

cannot stress this enough. why anyone would want to mess with a nightmarish dissociative is beyond me

Yeah if you're looking for legal highs, kratom is the one. Look for UEI "ultra enhanced Indonesian", it's the best.
Not a dissociative, but a much better experience all around. Kind of a stimulant at low doses, an opioid at higher ones. Can get it on Amazon or various sites, but shops sell it too.

chewing is the way to go. my (limited) smoking experiences were awful - five minutes of a total loss of control and reality, which might sound exciting but it was just unpleasant and uncomfortable.

my flatmate has a salvia plant so not sure what strain it is, but chewing a few leaves of that gives a pleasant high for an hour or so

demonzEEK wrote:

looks like fun

fractal wrote:

wub wrote:Oh right, we're talking about time taken. Yeah, only way you're getting across London in 30mins is by flying.

Same for bejing

Impossible, new airport is next to the old one

Oh Neptune, freedom? U got more camera's then Beijing (says a LOT)

Heard nothing but bad ‘tings about Salvia…

herbalicious wrote:I have just sat for the last half an hour watching bad trip videos.

I'm never so much as putting ketchup on my chips anymore. I'm sticking to celery and tea. Nothing to harm me there.

HAHAHAHAHAH

That video just gave me a headache.

Will you all please be careful with whatever fucking drugs you're taking. You make it seem like you're all throwaways. I'm not being dramatic but that guy was lucky the window was only a meter off the ground. Something much worse could happen to you and end up in the papers, linked online, posted to forums, and have people judging you by your drug use when they don't even know who you really are. Be responsible, is what I'm saying.

Anyway, carry on with getting a sitter, happy trips, Beijing, et al.

aquemini wrote:chewing is the way to go. my (limited) smoking experiences were awful - five minutes of a total loss of control and reality, which might sound exciting but it was just unpleasant and uncomfortable.

my flatmate has a salvia plant so not sure what strain it is, but chewing a few leaves of that gives a pleasant high for an hour or so

High five, smoking it is shat.