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wobbles wrote:I hate how American rappers get all te credit for big tracks
It's so ass backwards I swear

kultron wrote:Christ that MGK dude is awful.

kultron wrote:Lex Luger is good, but he's hardly original. Waka Flocka blew up last year and now every white guy that hears it thinks he's Eazy-E. The dark 808 sound has been around for years. I still prefer Shawty Redd and Fatboi:

Shawty Redd back in '05:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGcZCvwh7SY

Fatboi in '05:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCil-kLG ... re=related

Christ that MGK dude is awful. But don't get me wrong is still love Lex Luger:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4uBUcfxcLE

zaytoven is one of the hottest and probably THE most original within this "trap" style

it seems you've forgotten Don Cannon and Drumma Boy

coogcoo wrote:love zaytoven, but his beats are TOTALLY different than lex's. also girl unit is just w/e not even the same sort of shit at all

and i think MGK is a decent rapper, he has a nice versatile flow and good punchlines. also he's wearing a drop dead shirt in that video so he gets a lot of points for that.

shawty redd would be killing it right now if he hadn't actually killed somebody. bummer the dude's locked up, was super talented..

seriously tho its not that uncommon for rap producers to make their beats fast as hell. actually most of the producers i know and a lot that i admire (cotti for example, or laidback luke) have said that they usually dont spend much longer than like 3 or 4 hrs on a track, start to finish. i know dilla was well known for making crazy beats in like 15-20 minutes and then just turning his mpc off and erasing them. a lot of the early digital mystikz tunes sound like they were made in a single night. i know skream likes to blow thru tracks..

ketamine wrote:

coogcoo wrote:love zaytoven, but his beats are TOTALLY different than lex's. also girl unit is just w/e not even the same sort of shit at all

and i think MGK is a decent rapper, he has a nice versatile flow and good punchlines. also he's wearing a drop dead shirt in that video so he gets a lot of points for that.

shawty redd would be killing it right now if he hadn't actually killed somebody. bummer the dude's locked up, was super talented..

seriously tho its not that uncommon for rap producers to make their beats fast as hell. actually most of the producers i know and a lot that i admire (cotti for example, or laidback luke) have said that they usually dont spend much longer than like 3 or 4 hrs on a track, start to finish. i know dilla was well known for making crazy beats in like 15-20 minutes and then just turning his mpc off and erasing them. a lot of the early digital mystikz tunes sound like they were made in a single night. i know skream likes to blow thru tracks..

Because in hip hop they don't have to mix it, or even engineer a lot of it. You can be sloppy fast knowing its going to another studio to get "made sound good". Electronic musicians don't have that luxury. Let's see how long itd take Lex to mix his own sh-t. He'd be starring at FL for a week like everybody else.

Helix [Delay] wrote:

ketamine wrote:

coogcoo wrote:love zaytoven, but his beats are TOTALLY different than lex's. also girl unit is just w/e not even the same sort of shit at all

and i think MGK is a decent rapper, he has a nice versatile flow and good punchlines. also he's wearing a drop dead shirt in that video so he gets a lot of points for that.

shawty redd would be killing it right now if he hadn't actually killed somebody. bummer the dude's locked up, was super talented..

seriously tho its not that uncommon for rap producers to make their beats fast as hell. actually most of the producers i know and a lot that i admire (cotti for example, or laidback luke) have said that they usually dont spend much longer than like 3 or 4 hrs on a track, start to finish. i know dilla was well known for making crazy beats in like 15-20 minutes and then just turning his mpc off and erasing them. a lot of the early digital mystikz tunes sound like they were made in a single night. i know skream likes to blow thru tracks..

Because in hip hop they don't have to mix it, or even engineer a lot of it. You can be sloppy fast knowing its going to another studio to get "made sound good". Electronic musicians don't have that luxury. Let's see how long itd take Lex to mix his own sh-t. He'd be starring at FL for a week like everybody else.

not really, it's because they aren't breaking any new ground, they're making rap beats ffs


and it's really not THAT hard to mix down a track, not if you keep it simple.

ketamine wrote:

Helix [Delay] wrote:

ketamine wrote:

coogcoo wrote:love zaytoven, but his beats are TOTALLY different than lex's. also girl unit is just w/e not even the same sort of shit at all

and i think MGK is a decent rapper, he has a nice versatile flow and good punchlines. also he's wearing a drop dead shirt in that video so he gets a lot of points for that.

shawty redd would be killing it right now if he hadn't actually killed somebody. bummer the dude's locked up, was super talented..

seriously tho its not that uncommon for rap producers to make their beats fast as hell. actually most of the producers i know and a lot that i admire (cotti for example, or laidback luke) have said that they usually dont spend much longer than like 3 or 4 hrs on a track, start to finish. i know dilla was well known for making crazy beats in like 15-20 minutes and then just turning his mpc off and erasing them. a lot of the early digital mystikz tunes sound like they were made in a single night. i know skream likes to blow thru tracks..

Because in hip hop they don't have to mix it, or even engineer a lot of it. You can be sloppy fast knowing its going to another studio to get "made sound good". Electronic musicians don't have that luxury. Let's see how long itd take Lex to mix his own sh-t. He'd be starring at FL for a week like everybody else.

not really, it's because they aren't breaking any new ground, they're making rap beats ffs


and it's really not THAT hard to mix down a track, not if you keep it simple.

Show me one lliner note / album credit where it says "Mixed by Lex Luger" (or his real name) and I'll buy you a beer.

Helix [Delay] wrote:

ketamine wrote:

Helix [Delay] wrote:

ketamine wrote:

coogcoo wrote:love zaytoven, but his beats are TOTALLY different than lex's. also girl unit is just w/e not even the same sort of shit at all

and i think MGK is a decent rapper, he has a nice versatile flow and good punchlines. also he's wearing a drop dead shirt in that video so he gets a lot of points for that.

shawty redd would be killing it right now if he hadn't actually killed somebody. bummer the dude's locked up, was super talented..

seriously tho its not that uncommon for rap producers to make their beats fast as hell. actually most of the producers i know and a lot that i admire (cotti for example, or laidback luke) have said that they usually dont spend much longer than like 3 or 4 hrs on a track, start to finish. i know dilla was well known for making crazy beats in like 15-20 minutes and then just turning his mpc off and erasing them. a lot of the early digital mystikz tunes sound like they were made in a single night. i know skream likes to blow thru tracks..

Because in hip hop they don't have to mix it, or even engineer a lot of it. You can be sloppy fast knowing its going to another studio to get "made sound good". Electronic musicians don't have that luxury. Let's see how long itd take Lex to mix his own sh-t. He'd be starring at FL for a week like everybody else.

not really, it's because they aren't breaking any new ground, they're making rap beats ffs


and it's really not THAT hard to mix down a track, not if you keep it simple.

Show me one lliner note / album credit where it says "Mixed by Lex Luger" (or his real name) and I'll buy you a beer.

usually the producer mixes down the beat he makes, and then another engineer mixes the vocals + the beat, and then the mastering guy masters it