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Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:03 pm
by ghandi
Sub Swara :Q:

DJG :n:

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:22 pm
by Sharmaji
awwwwww..

there has been great dubstep in the states since 2005 at least.

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:55 pm
by Suangi
vishes wrote:
And of course there are good American Dubstep producers, but we all know what some other American producers did to the sound.

this is the real problem, so many people think Americans "did this" to the dubstep sound. I'm no expert on the history of brostep, but from what i understand, very little of it predates Rusko and Caspa's fabric 37. This just happened to be the style of British dupstep that Americans started hearing on a large scale. Then there's the idea that Borgore ruined dubstep/created brostep, but he's from Israel. So why not just blame the israelis for brostep too?

Sure, skrillex emerged as a marketing tool to make money off of the American youth's obsession with British brostep. Most of what american brosteppas listen to is either Canadian (Excision, Datsick, etc.) or British (Fluxter P & the rest of the circus crew). So a number of american brostep artists have shown up, but none of them invented the sound, they just copied it and a few may have 'taken it further.'

Britain has Modestep fcs :roll: .

Don't get me wrong, i frequently hate on america and the american lifestyle for all sorts of things, including the state of the dubstep scene, but to say that Americans are the one who corrupted the sound is just incorrect. Americans just happen to lap up the corrupted version of the sound.

It's really an issue of fanbases/consumers, not artists.

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:01 pm
by hendramarshall
what he said^^, all of it... very literally...

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:04 pm
by brasco
Suangi wrote:Britain has Modestep
:h:

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:25 pm
by GhostMutt
Suangi wrote:
vishes wrote:
And of course there are good American Dubstep producers, but we all know what some other American producers did to the sound.

this is the real problem, so many people think Americans "did this" to the dubstep sound. I'm no expert on the history of brostep, but from what i understand, very little of it predates Rusko and Caspa's fabric 37. This just happened to be the style of British dupstep that Americans started hearing on a large scale. Then there's the idea that Borgore ruined dubstep/created brostep, but he's from Israel. So why not just blame the israelis for brostep too?

Sure, skrillex emerged as a marketing tool to make money off of the American youth's obsession with British brostep. Most of what american brosteppas listen to is either Canadian (Excision, Datsick, etc.) or British (Fluxter P & the rest of the circus crew). So a number of american brostep artists have shown up, but none of them invented the sound, they just copied it and a few may have 'taken it further.'

Britain has Modestep fcs :roll: .

Don't get me wrong, i frequently hate on america and the american lifestyle for all sorts of things, including the state of the dubstep scene, but to say that Americans are the one who corrupted the sound is just incorrect. Americans just happen to lap up the corrupted version of the sound.

It's really an issue of fanbases/consumers, not artists.
It's not the sound it's the saturation holmes.

It was always inevitable that stnuc would keep opening the filter cutoff higher and higher.
Copying it and taking it further implies some kind of evolution in the sound though...




Personally I'm pretty sure Rockefellor or Rothschild are responsible for this in some way

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:57 pm
by tacospheros
vishes wrote:Martyn isn't even an American to begin with, he's Dutch as the person above me already said. He just lives in Washington.

And of course there are good American Dubstep producers, but we all know what some other American producers did to the sound.


fuck you. im so sick of this arrogant ignorance. you wanna know how many times dubstep headliners have come over here from the UK only to play ALL BROSTEP MIDRANGEsets ?? i don't have enough hands to count. this is a thread about the good stuff. i could make a 20 page thread of all the UK djs who play bro garbage. shut up with this outdated bullshit rhetoric

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:01 am
by DiegoSapiens
and matty g? where is matty g?

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:07 am
by Maccaveli
Yeah how did the OP manage to name all those artists but forget about The Widdler and Matty G?

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:00 am
by Samuel_L_Damnson
Noah D is a badman

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:34 am
by hiat
Sharmaji wrote:awwwwww..

there has been great dubstep in the states since 2005 at least.
Damn man - forgot about you living in the States - 'How to Move' is such a wicked tune. Big Ups.

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:44 am
by GhostMutt
This is all a trap.

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:48 am
by seckle
can we please stop regionalizing music. its boring when people cannot stand on their two feet with their music, without telling everyone where its from, or where they're from.

we live in the era of free global internet promo. everything is global. where you come from is not fucking important at all anymore. its where you're at as an artist that speaks for itself. let your music or your concept do the talking, not your post code.

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:50 am
by seckle
GhostMutt wrote:This is all a trap.
bingo. a bait thread, is exactly as you say.

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:17 am
by hiat
seckle wrote:
GhostMutt wrote:This is all a trap.
bingo. a bait thread, is exactly as you say.
Nope - sorry not a bait thread at all. Just bringing attention to the narrow minded that America does create good dubstep. If you read in my original post I say that the World has plenty of good dubstep to offer (not just America). Was only bringing attention that there are 50 times more talented producers from the States than one fucking guy who everyone claims "ruined dubstep". It's shit and naive to think that way. And.... I agree with you - music should not be limited to one region or country or city - that's fucking conceited. Hell - 90% of the vinyl I buy are by producers outside of the States - My hard earned money to buy vinyl is from record distributors based in the UK. So no - I don't have a hard on for America's dubstep scene but it would be great to hear something positive about the talent that America has to offer other than "Oh, America can suck my balls because Skrillex ruined Dubstep and that's the only thing they had to offer". Fuck that.

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:23 am
by Pistonsbeneath
nobody thinks all american dubstep is bad

many uk producers have been slated as well on here

/thread

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:17 am
by NW_DUBAHOLIC
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Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:19 pm
by kikaida
when I saw Benga he played about 4 skrillex tunes

I don't like skrillex, but shit man it's just music. nobody says we have to like ever artist in the genre.

don't like it? don't listen

simple.

in this day and age of international travel and the internet, classifying an artist by where they are from is just stupid

personally I put skrillex in the same category as doctor p and giant.. not my personal preference

I also lump dubtek, triage, bassist and spl in the same group as droid sector and chewie who I really like and I listen to them all the time.

people should stop generalising and get back to making music

2cents

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:20 pm
by TheTornado
Giant is sick.

Re: Belive it or not there is good American Dubstep

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:45 pm
by rorz9992
I was going to say XI, but he is Canadian I believe?
Matty G & DGJ are also big faves for me.