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FuDuzn wrote:

meshblorg wrote:

FuDuzn wrote:I willing to accept that there is a segment of 'dubstep' fans who like the style of the producers you listed(hell I listen to brostep once in awhile) but seriously Meshblorg, 'Bass Cannon' is a terrible terrible 'song'(and I use that term loosely). I would listen to a million Skrillex, Doctor P, Ajapai songs on repeat before I even come close to torturing my ears with that abortion of a tune.

I explained why I put every track on there There's a lot of incredible dubstep tracks I had to leave out by artists like Phaeleh, Distance, and Phutureprimitive. They are amazing tunes but I couldn't call them tracks of the year.

You are missing my point, all I am saying is Bass Cannon is poo and shouldn't be recognized as a good tune by even the broest of bro's. I would rather you have included another Skrillex song over that.

Nah I think Flux deserves a spot and I'll leave Skrillex to #1. Bass Cannon was dropped at like every show I was at and made the crowd go nuts. Flux Pavilion makes big hits and his remix of Gold Dust by DJ Fresh made our last year top 15 too:

http://lessthan3.com/#!/2011/01/the-top ... ks-of-2010

meshblorg delivers

bigups

How did you miss this out of your top 15?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYhY5-jPnVY

meshblorg wrote:

FuDuzn wrote:

meshblorg wrote:

FuDuzn wrote:I willing to accept that there is a segment of 'dubstep' fans who like the style of the producers you listed(hell I listen to brostep once in awhile) but seriously Meshblorg, 'Bass Cannon' is a terrible terrible 'song'(and I use that term loosely). I would listen to a million Skrillex, Doctor P, Ajapai songs on repeat before I even come close to torturing my ears with that abortion of a tune.

I explained why I put every track on there There's a lot of incredible dubstep tracks I had to leave out by artists like Phaeleh, Distance, and Phutureprimitive. They are amazing tunes but I couldn't call them tracks of the year.

You are missing my point, all I am saying is Bass Cannon is poo and shouldn't be recognized as a good tune by even the broest of bro's. I would rather you have included another Skrillex song over that.

Nah I think Flux deserves a spot and I'll leave Skrillex to #1. Bass Cannon was dropped at like every show I was at and made the crowd go nuts. Flux Pavilion makes big hits and his remix of Gold Dust by DJ Fresh made our last year top 15 too:

http://lessthan3.com/#!/2011/01/the-top ... ks-of-2010

Well outside of the problem that you are going to multiple shows where Bass Cannon is dropped, I think I gave Bros too much credit. And you forgot to put the s before hits.

meshblorg wrote:
Nah I think Flux deserves a spot and I'll leave Skrillex to #1. Bass Cannon was dropped at like every show I was at and made the crowd go nuts. Flux Pavilion makes big hits and his remix of Gold Dust by DJ Fresh made our last year top 15 too:

http://lessthan3.com/#!/2011/01/the-top ... ks-of-2010

I think that you, Flux Pavilion, and Skrillex, should all go play flag football in heavy traffic. Your grandmother too, because shes a fucking bitch.

meshblorg wrote:

Cornbreadddd wrote:BEFORE YOU GUYS CLICK THIS:

#1 "dubstep" "track" of the year is a Skrillex song................should tell you enough, don't waste your time unless you wan't a good laugh.

I have a slight premonition / clairvoyance that this won't get the best of responses (rightfully so), you posted this on the wrong forum bud. Every single "track" you posted is beyond horrible

Ps.Propaganda? Green and Blue? Hunted? Turn? Drones? Haymaker? Phatty Drummer? Babylon Fall? Meanstreak? Ruffhouse?

I don't think anyone can deny the influence and effects Skrillex is having on the rise of dubstep in America and even around the world now. Even though Cinema is cheesy and upbeat it's actually a pretty fun track to sing along and party to! That combined with all his success and accomplishments this year-- I think he definitely earned that spot

pulling one from the dsf brostep arguments archive, can you deny the influence of hitler on the jewish community? he was huge. everyone talked abt him at every meeting of nations man! are you gonna put him in your list of the top 15 government officials?

so many hipsters in this thread, and you're all the same. you want to keep dubstep to yourself, and not share it with anyone. music evolves, deal with it.

Thrilla wrote:so many hipsters in this thread, and you're all the same. you want to keep dubstep to yourself, and not share it with anyone. music evolves, deal with it.

dude wtf are you talking about? what exactly is this post supposed to mean?

scattybeanhead wrote:

Thrilla wrote:so many hipsters in this thread, and you're all the same. you want to keep dubstep to yourself, and not share it with anyone. music evolves, deal with it.

dude wtf are you talking about? what exactly is this post supposed to mean?

i'm not sure either. listened to the song in his sig though that explained quite a bit.

@scattbean and @ difference
if you honestly didn't understand what i wrote, then maybe should go back to english grade 5? you all take it so seriously.. it's music, music will always evolve in every genre. you're all so worried about appearing cool for listening to music that isn't well known, and here dubstep is starting to get more and more known.. which is obviously the reason you're getting mad. i haven't heard one valid excuse as to why everyone hates skrillex and other 'brostep' producers. you can't say skrillex is shit, sure you can dislike his music, but you can't say that you hate him because he's shit. because we both know that his production skills are out of this world. he came in, changed the game, all hipsters got mad because they can't listen to something that's going mainstream. skrillex is nominated for 5 grammys.. is burial? ask yourself that.

Thrilla wrote:@scattbean and @ difference
if you honestly didn't understand what i wrote, then maybe should go back to english grade 5? you all take it so seriously.. it's music, music will always evolve in every genre. you're all so worried about appearing cool for listening to music that isn't well known, and here dubstep is starting to get more and more known.. which is obviously the reason you're getting mad. i haven't heard one valid excuse as to why everyone hates skrillex and other 'brostep' producers. you can't say skrillex is shit, sure you can dislike his music, but you can't say that you hate him because he's shit. because we both know that his production skills are out of this world. he came in, changed the game, all hipsters got mad because they can't listen to something that's going mainstream. skrillex is nominated for 5 grammys.. is burial? ask yourself that.

It's more "why is this completely new thing that Skirlex etc. are doing also being called dubstep?"

Thrilla wrote:skrillex is nominated for 5 grammys.. is burial? ask yourself that.

this argument always confuses me. i don't think that grammy nominations or other popular awards are an indicator for quality or relevance (to the genre), in any genre.

@therapist ok i understand your argument there, that makes sense. i just don't understand the mindless hate towards skrillex because he's big. but about his music not being dubstep, i can't argue there.. i guess blame rusko for starting the 'brostep' trend. but when skrillex started he didn't call it dubstep, it sort of adapted because that's what everybody else called it. but it's also like how back in the 60s 70s and 80s you had bands like zeppelin, black sabbath, etc.. who called theirselves metal... as the years progressed, so has the music. listen to a black sabbath song, then go listen to a job for a cowboy song.. listen to the drastic differences. maybe giving 'brostep' a subgenre (other than brostep of course, because that is kind of offensive) would work.. i think it should all just merge to 'bass music', since now you're starting to hear a lot of other shit like 100bpm, moombahton, etc. at the end of the day, arguing over genres and hating on artists for saying that they are a certain genre, and you just don't agree with them, is pointless. it's not going to change anyone's opinion, and it definitely won't change how they make music.

@baddis98 please explain your theory.. obviously if somebody had terrible quality music, they wouldn't be nominated.. like it or not, people with talent are the one's getting nominated. now, in no way am i saying burial has no talent, of course he does. but obviously skrillex appeals to a lot more people than burial. you can't deny skrillex's skill. nobody can.

Thrilla wrote:but obviously skrillex appeals to a lot more people than burial. you can't deny skrillex's skill. nobody can.

you answered your own question. it's about what's the most appealing to the mainstream audience. most of the nominees and winners are pop music in their own categories (not pop as in genre, but as for "popular music"). that doesn't mean that everything nominated for a grammy is shit, but it definately doesn't mean that it's great quality either. awards like these are for people, who don't have the time or the ambition to get deeper into music and therefore always stay on the surface of things, which is fine when it works for them. but it's a fact that there are loads of producers and artists out there, who have a higher quality level than most of these pop artists, but still don't get recognised, because their music is too challenging to sell it to billions, who are satisfied with what the mainstream media channels serve them.
as for skrillex, i can't say i'm an expert in music theory or production or that i analyzed all of his tunes, but from what i heard, i can't recognize the genius and impeccable skills a lot of people claim. it just sounds flat and plastic to me, with no soul or swagga.

@baddis98 it's all a matter of opinion. just because something is more "challenging" or technical, doesn't make it better quality. sure, maybe they are better with the more technical side of things, but it still doesn't justify better quality.

another thing i want to know is, where is the 'brostep' line drawn? i mean, is koan sound 'brostep'..? what about noisia? they both have filthy basslines. they both don't stick inside the dubstep genre. they are also both very technical. i know this strays away from the skrillex argument, but i'm just curious where the line is drawn.

Thrilla wrote:@baddis98 it's all a matter of opinion. just because something is more "challenging" or technical, doesn't make it better quality.

i obviously never said it would!

Thrilla wrote:obviously if somebody had terrible quality music, they wouldn't be nominated.. like it or not, people with talent are the one's getting nominated.

There's absolutely no credibility behind those awards. You're an idiot if you think people are nominated on talent.

Biggup the skrillex for a nomination though. his was earned through popularity and not brought by heavy marketing.

Thrilla wrote:@baddis98 it's all a matter of opinion. just because something is more "challenging" or technical, doesn't make it better quality. sure, maybe they are better with the more technical side of things, but it still doesn't justify better quality.

another thing i want to know is, where is the 'brostep' line drawn? i mean, is koan sound 'brostep'..? what about noisia? they both have filthy basslines. they both don't stick inside the dubstep genre. they are also both very technical. i know this strays away from the skrillex argument, but i'm just curious where the line is drawn.

Depends who you ask. As far as I'm concerned, dubstep = dub + (2)step; so it has to have at least some connection to dub and/or garage, however remote - so the umpteen billion tunes that rely on over-compressed half-steps and overcooked hyper-edited buzzing midrange 'bass' (borrowed from styles of d'n'b I never liked) are not dubstep. I don't uniformly hate this stuff (quite liked Skream's Indistinct last year, which is broadly in that style), but it needs another name. Brostep is available.

Might I humbly suggest that it's a good idea for a thread, despite lacklustre execution?

Oh - and it isn't a matter of opinion. Otherwise Mala would have as many slavering fans as Skrillex (or more broadly, the dungeon sound would be as popular as brogasmic bzzt-bzzt-wobble). It's a matter of industry.

Katy Perry is probably nominated for a grammy, so is Nicki Minaj......does that mean their music is quality? Or does it mean that it's just commercialized bullshit fed to the masses so that people can cash out on a trend? (The latter is the valid notion in case you are just a complete bigot.)

I dont care if Skrillex makes 1000 'tunes' and makes 100560000422564500456034563453456600000 dollars of it.....but what I do care about is when people begin to call it "dubstep."

You call us true heads 'hipsters.' I find this beyond comical. You, you fuck, are the hipster. The kids who like Skrillex and Datsik are the kids who go to shows in neon tank tops with lighty glow sticks and take all kinds of drugs to get amped up for the music just because it's the new trend. The music has no longevity. It's just something, new, wild, and different, so the hipster fucks like yourself, wan't to follow it and be edgy and cool by saying they like "dubstep." The true heads go to the venue, dark, huge sound system, eyes down, or skanking the fuck out, feeling the vibes. It's not about some fucking musical fashion statement. Meditate on Bass Weight.

PS. Once again, I hate you and hope you die.