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Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:37 pm
by cmgoodman1226
antman wrote:I would tell myself to stop you tubing and googling and just read the manual.
This.

Also, it would be; don't think that because you transposed your bassline in 4 octaves, it's going to sound huge and awesome. Some of my biggest basslines have come from sounds made from just 1 or 2 oscillators and just one octave, or a few oscillators carefully layered together (and a sub). I used to just try to use as many oscillators as possible thinking that would give me a huge sound, when all it really ever gave me was a huge wall of shit that cluttered the mix.

Also, it would be to learn the basics of EQing, and use it to have things sit proper in the mix, as opposed to getting into a loudness war where you turn the bassline up, and the lead drowns out, so you turn the lead up, then the pad drowns out, etc. etc. Learn to focus as much as possible on the track as a whole. That lead you just made may sound very sick on its own, but if it cludders the mix, what are the most vital frequency ranges that need to come through, and what can you notch out to make headroom for other things?

And the final tidbit, don't frequency split just because you heard that's what the pros do. Obviously experiment, but I fell into the trap of always trying to frequency split my reeses and they just turned out thin sounding and just genuinely god awful because I was just doing it to do it; because I heard it was a good thing. I sometimes frequency split my basslines with good results, but usually for my reeses I just split of the sub and then everything above it. Basically, stay away from the trap of doing something you don't know how to do just because you heard it was good to do. That being said, take some time every now and again to completely negate what I just said and experiment with things you know nothing about (and learn as much as you can about at the same time).

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:52 pm
by Kronickz
I would have to say automation! Now when i go back to all my early tracks and touch em up with some automation on various things. Made all the tracks sound way better and flow. Transitions to me is everything

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:56 pm
by Kronickz
I would have to say automation! Now when i go back to all my early tracks and touch em up with some automation on various things. Made all the tracks sound way better and flow. Transitions to me is everything

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:05 pm
by B-Frank
Don't expect miracles over night, put in the leg work and LEARN music theory and LEARN about your DAW and LEARN some of the essential more technical aspects of producing.

No matter however naturally talented you are, it will be an absolutely miracle for you to stumble into making a tune good enough to put out in the first couple months for numerous reasons. Start off making music because you enjoy it then see where it goes from there.

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:07 pm
by B-Frank
Don't expect miracles over night, put in the leg work and LEARN music theory and LEARN about your DAW and LEARN some of the essential more technical aspects of producing.

No matter however naturally talented you are, it will be an absolutely miracle for you to stumble into making a tune good enough to put out in the first couple months for numerous reasons. Start off making music because you enjoy it then see where it goes from there.

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:09 pm
by B-Frank
antman wrote:I would tell myself to stop you tubing and googling and just read the manual.
I disagree because a lot of the youtube videos (providing you find the right ones) are a lot easier to interpret than long winded manuals. Infact I'd go as far as recommend looking at Youtube videos to learn some stuff as a complete noob if you haven't got friends (lucky for me, I did) to show you the workings.

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:23 pm
by Huts
take peoples advice with a grain of salt and just make tunes.

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:41 pm
by dullatron
1) Find your own sound
2) work hard but don't put too much stress on yourself.
3) don't compromise your sound for anyone else but yourself.
4) haters gonna hate, jealous people even more...
5) have small goals, i.e. a song in two weeks or try to get a show in a month or whatever

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:46 pm
by ChekOneTwo
With practice and putting in the hours it does get quicker, it does get easier and it does all make sense.... You've gotta practice the same things, finish tunes, start from scratch with new ideas all the time to imprint it into your brain... Practice practice practice and you'll get what you want.

The best bit is every hour you put in the better it gets and it feels so quick which is incredibly satisfying...

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:58 pm
by Earjax
Gusto wrote:
StratosFear wrote:Learn mixing sooner, rather than just figuring it wasn't really needed. It will really help you out with making your tracks sound better.
I guess with Dubstep there seems to be a focus on sounding good rather than actually being creative, but I disagree with the above statement. Anyone can mix your track, only you can record your musical ideas. Be creative, do whatever you can to get the ideas in your head down, and then FINISH THE SONG. If after you've mixed down your 3 minute song and decide it sucks, that's cool, that song is done and you can move on to the next one. Just don't get half way through and realise it doesn't sound like [your favourite artist] and chuck it and start again until it does.
I think it was Dan Harmon who pointed out the story of a community college pottery teacher who got half of his class to spend the entire semester working on only one pot while the other half of the class made one pot a day. At the end of the semester all of the best pots came from the daily group.
Nah I agree with stratos, wish I'd learnt how to mix properly sooner or known it was so important, its what separates noobs from not so noobs ;)

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:29 am
by mikeyp
successful thread, good responses guys.

maybe some noobs will read this

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:58 am
by hutyluty
kill urself u shithead

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:11 am
by hudson
You suck, don't spam every dubstep-related Facebook page with your shitty music. Keep going though, you'll probably get better.
Also, you probably won't get rich off music, just give up now if that's your goal.

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:18 am
by ascent
wouldn't say anyhting, I'm already the worlds best producer and everything I have ever done has been the right choice
:6:

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:34 am
by AxeD
Find your own sound before you start hundreds of projects :D

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:46 am
by coemgen
Read this entire forum....three times...

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:11 am
by Sonika
Thanks all! :Q:



-a noob

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:40 am
by bodom418
ogunslinger wrote:go with dubturbo :h:

:lol:

True story. But for me... "Learn the real proper use of EQ, it goes so much deeper than boosting frequency, you fool". me to me.

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:56 am
by Ldizzy
turn the volume down...

Re: if you could tell noob producer you one thing

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:14 am
by e-motion
To me when I was a kid:
Stop playing Mega Drive and go learn to play the piano!

To me when I started (and even now):
Don't try to make a classic/dancefloor-bomb everytime you start a track. Finish the damn tracks!