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Re: mixers

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:43 am
by bSQUARED08
I use a A&H Xone:42 and it is a pretty damn awesome mixer. Amazing sound quality and the filters are top-notch. Faders are smooth as butter, knobs have perfect resistance, and it's really pretty simple to use.

Re: mixers

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:07 pm
by Mr_Frost
plus 1 for Rane... my ttm-56 is going on ten years old. It's built like a tank and is still smooth as butter. it went flying out the back of my truck onto the highway at 60 miles an hour to no detriment.(it was in the road case).

i find pioneer mixers to be highly overrated. the djm-800 feels like a toy...i honestly think the djm-500 is more solidly built.

Re: mixers

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:47 pm
by soulkids
vertx wrote:
hendramarshall wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:A&H, Rane, Vestax, Ecler or Formula Sound. Fuck Pioneer!
interesting never heard of this, reasonably priced stuff especially for a company that seemingly only makes mixers...

anyone have experience using one?
I've got a Nuo 2.0 - Love it! You can drive it to +10 before distortion and even then the distortion sounds warm and crunchy.
yup go 4 ecler. dont like the feel on those a&hs

Re: mixers

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:51 pm
by murky21
I would personally try and get hold of an A+H xone 32 - pretty cheap nowdays. Mine has lasted for 5+ years and is completely faultless and is a joy to use.

Re: mixers

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:11 pm
by hendramarshall
decisions, decisions... thanks for all the input peeps

Re: mixers

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:21 pm
by apmje
Riddles wrote:A & H Xone 22. got mine recently and it's awesome. not too pricey either

Re: mixers

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:45 pm
by wearecorsairs
have interest, need to get one for use with basic mixing (live drums,synth), hmm -q-

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:34 am
by vertx
soulkids wrote:
vertx wrote:
hendramarshall wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:A&H, Rane, Vestax, Ecler or Formula Sound. Fuck Pioneer!
interesting never heard of this, reasonably priced stuff especially for a company that seemingly only makes mixers...

anyone have experience using one?
I've got a Nuo 2.0 - Love it! You can drive it to +10 before distortion and even then the distortion sounds warm and crunchy.
yup go 4 ecler. dont like the feel on those a&hs
I've heard they arn't ergonomic - weird gains or something?

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:41 am
by south3rn
vertx wrote:
soulkids wrote:
vertx wrote:
hendramarshall wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:A&H, Rane, Vestax, Ecler or Formula Sound. Fuck Pioneer!
interesting never heard of this, reasonably priced stuff especially for a company that seemingly only makes mixers...

anyone have experience using one?
I've got a Nuo 2.0 - Love it! You can drive it to +10 before distortion and even then the distortion sounds warm and crunchy.
yup go 4 ecler. dont like the feel on those a&hs
I've heard they arn't ergonomic - weird gains or something?
the nobs are insanely big, but i find them perfect. the eqs have a very wide range to the larger nobs allow for more precise eqing.

the only weird thing with ecler is the level indicators go red VERY quickly, but don't distort till they're very high. it took me a while to be comfortable letting the levels be red (2 bars of red is my sweet spot)

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:40 am
by vertx
south3rn wrote: the nobs are insanely big, but i find them perfect. the eqs have a very wide range to the larger nobs allow for more precise eqing.

the only weird thing with ecler is the level indicators go red VERY quickly, but don't distort till they're very high. it took me a while to be comfortable letting the levels be red (2 bars of red is my sweet spot)
Nah I've got an Ecler I love them big knobs, I was talking about the xones having track gains on the back of the mixer not the top.

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:28 pm
by soulkids
yeah but only some that's really weird imho. also some of the older xones have weird linefaders (huge thingys).
I think if you're mixing fast you don't really need two mid freq eq's if that makes any sense ? probably more useful for house / techno djs that do long blends

and yeah I agree with the red lights, slightly annoying but the sound stays crystal clear

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:36 pm
by PinUp
I've got a 2nd hand DJM 600, I really don't like the monitoring on it though, thinking of just upgrading to a 700

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:48 pm
by phytone
Quite surprised to see so much hate for Pioneer mixers in this thread!

Any reason why people don't get on with them?

About 6 months ago I sold a TTM57 to get a DJM800 and I couldn't be happier. It's not quite as good for scratching, but for me the colour pots with the filters are invaluable for mixing and I feel like I can blend tracks much better with the Pioneer, the layout is just perfect for me.

OK, the Rane felt a little more solid and had a slightly better build quality, but to be honest, I can't see how you can say the DJM800 is a toy...I dread to think what your opinion is on Behringer mixers :lol:

In my personal opinion, it's CDJs that feel like a toy. Mixing with them rather than turntables completely destroys the whole experience for me! (Personal opinion, please don't burn me alive!)

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:13 pm
by Sabotage84
i use the ecler nuo 2.0 since a few weeks and i have to say it's an incredible mixer, especially for this price range.
had a vestax pmc 05 before which i used for almost 9 years mostly for scratching. r.i.p. :(

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:32 pm
by __________
phytone wrote:I sold a TTM57 to get a DJM800 and I couldn't be happier.
:o
A lot of people hate on Pioneer cos of the sound quality.
Compared to an A&H or Rane, there is no competition.
Personally my main gripe with Pioneer is the majorly cheap/plastic feeling faders and knobs. And the fact you can't scratch properly on them. And the cheap ass sounding multi FX. Also I can only find two phono inputs on some of them. And there's always gaffa tape on the master fader to stop idiots playing with the master volume. Never seen any gaffa tape on a A&H so they're clearly better in my eyes.

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:52 pm
by phytone
Fair enough, I have only just got a decent set of monitors so maybe that's why I didn't notice a difference in sound quality when I switched...
One of the main reasons I switched though was for 4 channels, but really do miss the Rane for scratching :(
However, I would suffer without those colour pots!

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:15 pm
by pikeymobile
Yeah I do really hate the gain nobs being on the back of my a&h, but the filters and EQs more than make up for it

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:18 pm
by murky21
pikeymobile wrote:Yeah I do really hate the gain nobs being on the back of my a&h, but the filters and EQs more than make up for it
i find im completely used to it now, just like turning any of the other knobs

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:41 pm
by pikeymobile
murky21 wrote:
pikeymobile wrote:Yeah I do really hate the gain nobs being on the back of my a&h, but the filters and EQs more than make up for it
i find im completely used to it now, just like turning any of the other knobs
There's a few times I've turned the gain up a bit too far though, might start practising using them a bit more :w:

Re: mixers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:00 pm
by neonriddims
I hate the eq and the monitor on the pioneers, the denon I have at home is much clearer and the eq's are more precise. Really don't get why pioneer is the standard for clubs...