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ambinate wrote:dunno but pharaoh & samurai are killer releases. didn't realize you had a new one out, will definitely be checking it out when i get a chance to listen later.

cheers.. i feel edo jazz age is my most artistically accomplished album yet, it delivers the feeling of a "concept" album more than my last ones.. hit me back if you like it

send your tunes to rinse djs who would play them. easiest way to get exposure without leaving your house imo. also, send some tunes to blogs.

if you really want to do this thing tho, you might have to become more social

i guess this thread is a start

true! but you also want to link up with local people physically, i.e. go out to the clubs/record shops and meet some people. it can't hurt

exfox wrote:

davwuh wrote:Hey guys, I have a problem.. I don;t have a job and I have no skills other than making music so I need to become a semi-famous producer.. or at least enough to make a decent living off. Don't have to be some Skream type travelling the world and DJ'ing for big bucks, but selling enough music to live a comfortable lower class life would be fine..

Problem is though, I don't drink, don't take drugs and don't go out clubbing anymore - and as getting ahead in the music world is more social than anything, my only real option is to make contacts on the internet rather than trying to forge friendships IRL. But yeah, that's quite prohibiting and plus, I'm not big on talking online. As you can see by my post count I'm not a regular contributor here to the forums and I only come on here every now and then, I guess I'm kind of a reserved person.

So how do you become a big name producer? Don't want to sound arrogant, but I think my tunes are pretty good and I've got a lot of material out there.. yeah I've got some fans and I've made a bit of money off selling my stuff on Bandcamp, but nowhere near enough to live off, which is my objective.

Anyway, I guess there is no answers to this eternal question, so maybe it can be more of an alcoholics anonymous type thread, where we all sit around and talk about how bleak the future is for us all.

1. make a banging loop
2. tweet zomby and wait for him to ask you for a collab
3. wait a year for the track to be released under his name on 4ad
4. ?????
5. ?????



or jump on the srebme breaks bandwagon before it's too late

srebme break ftw

I'd say your best bet to get a sustainable income in the music industry these days is to hop on the srebme breaks movement.

One thing I like about srebme Breaks is its complete inability to lose all humour associated with it within the first hour.

garethom wrote:One thing I like about srebme Breaks is its complete inability to lose all humour associated with it within the first hour.

Dude..honestly if you want to make a shit ton of money & want to be a big name producer then you gotta ride the mainstreams of edm and take a grasp onto its sounds and start producing it.

Brostep Guide 101 To Becoming Famous
1. Sound unique/have a signature style people will know that it's you. (Figure, Brown & Gammon, Skream, Coki, Flux P, Skrillex, Dillon Francis)
2. Make the whole entire layout of the song catchy* & adrenaline pumping. Makes ya wanna move in the club/show
3. Ask questions/socialize/expand to further YOUR goals and YOUR dreams.
4. Ask some famous producers some questions on twitter...surprisingly a lot of them do answer back if it's a legitimate question(from experience)
5. Don't be embarrassed if people "hate/laugh" at you for following this road. It shouldn't affect you at all. It's doing it for yourself and music, letting people around the world hear your craft.

Your song in the sig is well produced...but is it worthy enough for me to crave it and put it on repeat/blast at a show? No. Would it be good in some movies/videos for atmosphere etc? Yes. When I heard your song it reminded me of being underwater in a ocean. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing to you.

So you might wanna go a different route and do something along those lines with that type of stuff.

BUT you did say you wanna become a "Big Name Producer". Then start expanding your producing skills and produce different genres if that'll help you learn.

Sometimes you gotta sacrifice things in order for your goals/dreams to come true. I've done a lot for myself and it's friends for me. I don't go out like I used too...I don't have a job & don't go to college either. Just producing & learning everyday.

Why do I like mainstream dubstep? Simple. I listen to so much music that nothing sounds fresh/new anymore nowadays(rock/hiphop/country/pop) blah blah blah. It's pretty much been there done that. But with electronic music the world has been expanded and you will hear shit you've never heard before in your lifetime. That's why "Dubstep" is just evolving more & more. People wanna hear catchy/creative shit.

People that don't listen to much music usually like "mainstream pop" because it all sounds "fresh" to them. BUT for dubstep it's all fresh and this whole movement of EDM is getting HUGE.

Don't cry to me with a reply that you don't like "Brostep" because then you're just doing it wrong.

If you wanna become a little name producer then keep doing what you're doing cuz everyone on this forum is doing it too. Gotta be one step further.

Here are some EDM producers you can listen to and you can tell why they are famous. Garethy Emery, Dada Life, Mord Fustang, Figure, Wolfgang Gartner, James Egbert(Going to be famous soon), Avicii, Flux Pavilion, Doctor P, Skrillex, Rusko. = They stand out with their production/they have tunes that are catchy/their songs are "bangers" at shows. Makes people dance like crack addicts.

Fastest road but the same time the longest road to what your goal is. Fastest road because your target audience is huge. Longest road because producing shit like this is a bitch/takes time.

If you couldn't figure this out on your own then I feel bad for you. In the "business realm" & "popularity" contest this is what you have to do. But if you're doing it for "music" then keep doing what you've been doing.

You will have FANS no matter what you make....someone out there WILL like it...just depends on how far you wanna go with that.

If you respond with WAH WaH omg brostep, Kode9 for life bruv then don't ask another question again. I hope you respect my answer as I respected your question and actually answered it compared to a lot of these people.

As a music producer you should appreciate ALL music genres/music in general even if you don't listen to it. You don't have to like it but appreciate what's there cuz people are just spreading love. If you don't then you're just ignorant and shouldn't produce music at all(doing it for the wrong reasons).

I'd agree with a large portion of that, but I'd strongly disagree with a small portion of it.
The only thing that I'll adress about it is, don't you think that a lot of the producers on here just don't have a flaming desire to BE "big name producers"? Because it could mean selling out/watering down your music, and a lot of producers want to produce first and foremost because they love to make music that they like, and if that means that they don't get big, so be it. I definitely feel that way, and I think a lot of others do too.

No disrespect though.

Your tunes are nice man, keep doing that.

one thing that some of my favorite producers have in common is that they make amazing music
so do that

Sonika wrote:I'd agree with a large portion of that, but I'd strongly disagree with a small portion of it.
The only thing that I'll adress about it is, don't you think that a lot of the producers on here just don't have a flaming desire to BE "big name producers"? Because it could mean selling out/watering down your music, and a lot of producers want to produce first and foremost because they love to make music that they like, and if that means that they don't get big, so be it. I definitely feel that way, and I think a lot of others do too.

No disrespect though.

Nah no one should follow my guidelines. Just the OP. I'm not saying that's how it should be in general. But with his mentality on becoming a "Big Name Producer" then yeah you should follow down that road of what I said. Only way to get there imo.

Work hard.
Be friendly.

but none of us are "big name producers" so what do we know?

And I think maybe you should make the distinction between the overthenightflashinthepan big name that caters to the musical fashion of the time - that just makes music that is trendy (which people will forget in 2 years), and the versitile producer with longevity that makes music that is just as relevant in 5 years time as it is now. (a true measure of sucess imo). But it sounds like you're aiming for the former.

If you're in it soley for the money, you're already in it for the wrong reasons so I will bid you good evening.

daeMTHAFKNkim wrote:Dude..honestly if you want to make a shit ton of money & want to be a big name producer then you gotta ride the mainstreams of edm and take a grasp onto its sounds and start producing it.

Brostep Guide 101 To Becoming Famous
1. Sound unique/have a signature style people will know that it's you. (Figure, Brown & Gammon, Skream, Coki, Flux P, Skrillex, Dillon Francis)
2. Make the whole entire layout of the song catchy* & adrenaline pumping. Makes ya wanna move in the club/show
3. Ask questions/socialize/expand to further YOUR goals and YOUR dreams.
4. Ask some famous producers some questions on twitter...surprisingly a lot of them do answer back if it's a legitimate question(from experience)
5. Don't be embarrassed if people "hate/laugh" at you for following this road. It shouldn't affect you at all. It's doing it for yourself and music, letting people around the world hear your craft.

Your song in the sig is well produced...but is it worthy enough for me to crave it and put it on repeat/blast at a show? No. Would it be good in some movies/videos for atmosphere etc? Yes. When I heard your song it reminded me of being underwater in a ocean. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing to you.

So you might wanna go a different route and do something along those lines with that type of stuff.

BUT you did say you wanna become a "Big Name Producer". Then start expanding your producing skills and produce different genres if that'll help you learn.

Sometimes you gotta sacrifice things in order for your goals/dreams to come true. I've done a lot for myself and it's friends for me. I don't go out like I used too...I don't have a job & don't go to college either. Just producing & learning everyday.

Why do I like mainstream dubstep? Simple. I listen to so much music that nothing sounds fresh/new anymore nowadays(rock/hiphop/country/pop) blah blah blah. It's pretty much been there done that. But with electronic music the world has been expanded and you will hear shit you've never heard before in your lifetime. That's why "Dubstep" is just evolving more & more. People wanna hear catchy/creative shit.

People that don't listen to much music usually like "mainstream pop" because it all sounds "fresh" to them. BUT for dubstep it's all fresh and this whole movement of EDM is getting HUGE.

Don't cry to me with a reply that you don't like "Brostep" because then you're just doing it wrong.

If you wanna become a little name producer then keep doing what you're doing cuz everyone on this forum is doing it too. Gotta be one step further.

Here are some EDM producers you can listen to and you can tell why they are famous. Garethy Emery, Dada Life, Mord Fustang, Figure, Wolfgang Gartner, James Egbert(Going to be famous soon), Avicii, Flux Pavilion, Doctor P, Skrillex, Rusko. = They stand out with their production/they have tunes that are catchy/their songs are "bangers" at shows. Makes people dance like crack addicts.

Fastest road but the same time the longest road to what your goal is. Fastest road because your target audience is huge. Longest road because producing shit like this is a bitch/takes time.

If you couldn't figure this out on your own then I feel bad for you. In the "business realm" & "popularity" contest this is what you have to do. But if you're doing it for "music" then keep doing what you've been doing.

You will have FANS no matter what you make....someone out there WILL like it...just depends on how far you wanna go with that.

If you respond with WAH WaH omg brostep, Kode9 for life bruv then don't ask another question again. I hope you respect my answer as I respected your question and actually answered it compared to a lot of these people.

As a music producer you should appreciate ALL music genres/music in general even if you don't listen to it. You don't have to like it but appreciate what's there cuz people are just spreading love. If you don't then you're just ignorant and shouldn't produce music at all(doing it for the wrong reasons).

Thanks for the post mate, it's a good one..

I have made all sorts of music in the past.. I've done brostep, dungeon sound, more garagey style, dnb, idm, but i'm kind of settled where I am doing the type of stuff that's in my sig now. I guess you're right though, that if I want money I should be making brostep, but I don't really fancy doing that tbh..

Ironically, one of my biggest songs on the net is a hard brosteppy/industrial-ish remix of a metal band I did called Meshuggah, it gets about 1000 views a day on Youtube and its on something like 185k right now.. Yeah I had to turn comments off on that video though because I was getting major hate from metalheads who hate brostep Also you might have seen one of my posts a while ago "is this the best justin bieber remix ever?"

I'm also not one of these guys who hates on brostep, though I can see why people hate it. To me, I don't think of it being borne out of the original dubstep sound, I just treat it as a separate genre altogether.. it feels more an offshoot of mainstream dance music to me. Personally I prefer chilled and dark stuff, but I'm unashamed to admit I've pumped a few Skrillex tunes on Youtube sometimes - you have to admit it's good workout music at least That said, I'll never pump Modestep or Mt. Eden Dubstep, that's just too shit for me

But yeah, I also don't think I should completely change what I'm doing just because brostep is bigger right now.. for starters, who's to say the popularity will last? Also, I fancy myself a better producer at real dubstep, future garage and post-dubstep sounds. To me, brostep is all about the technical side of production whereas the stuff I make is all about the music, the atmosphere

Oh yeah, thanks for liking the tune, but yeah you're right it wasn't designed to be played in clubs really.. when I make tunes I rarely think - will this sound good in a club? I make music to be more of an art (not to sound pompous), or more for the headphones listener I guess. Like I said a few posts back, I like to make my albums flowing concept-style albums, rather than putting out single releases and I listen as much to classical, prog rock, metal as much as I do dubstep/ukg. Though I do have some more dancey/garage style tracks, but I tend to blend them into my albums

Cheers for the big post anyway, some good points are made

epochalypso wrote:Work hard.
Be friendly.

but none of us are "big name producers" so what do we know?

And I think maybe you should make the distinction between the overthenightflashinthepan big name that caters to the musical fashion of the time - that just makes music that is trendy (which people will forget in 2 years), and the versitile producer with longevity that makes music that is just as relevant in 5 years time as it is now. (a true measure of sucess imo). But it sounds like you're aiming for the former.

If you're in it soley for the money, you're already in it for the wrong reasons so I will bid you good evening.

If I was only in it for the money I would have given up already mate, I've been producing for about 10 years

davwuh wrote:

epochalypso wrote:Work hard.
Be friendly.

but none of us are "big name producers" so what do we know?

And I think maybe you should make the distinction between the overthenightflashinthepan big name that caters to the musical fashion of the time - that just makes music that is trendy (which people will forget in 2 years), and the versitile producer with longevity that makes music that is just as relevant in 5 years time as it is now. (a true measure of sucess imo). But it sounds like you're aiming for the former.

If you're in it soley for the money, you're already in it for the wrong reasons so I will bid you good evening.

If I was only in it for the money I would have given up already mate, I've been producing for about 10 years

You are bamboozling.

epochalypso wrote:

davwuh wrote:

epochalypso wrote:Work hard.
Be friendly.

but none of us are "big name producers" so what do we know?

And I think maybe you should make the distinction between the overthenightflashinthepan big name that caters to the musical fashion of the time - that just makes music that is trendy (which people will forget in 2 years), and the versitile producer with longevity that makes music that is just as relevant in 5 years time as it is now. (a true measure of sucess imo). But it sounds like you're aiming for the former.

If you're in it soley for the money, you're already in it for the wrong reasons so I will bid you good evening.

If I was only in it for the money I would have given up already mate, I've been producing for about 10 years

You are bamboozling.

The thing is though, it's nice saying you're only in it for the music, and yeah my passion is driven by my love for music - but if you're not aiming to make money then really it's a fruitless endeavor.. I dunno, maybe some guys on here still have the luxury of living with their parents or being at university, but when you're settled down and engaged to your girlfriend in your own place and your only options for making money are working in retail (i dropped out of uni) or trying to make money on tunes, then yeah.. maybe you can see why I really need to start making a bit more dough

davwuh wrote:

epochalypso wrote:

davwuh wrote:

epochalypso wrote:Work hard.
Be friendly.

but none of us are "big name producers" so what do we know?

And I think maybe you should make the distinction between the overthenightflashinthepan big name that caters to the musical fashion of the time - that just makes music that is trendy (which people will forget in 2 years), and the versitile producer with longevity that makes music that is just as relevant in 5 years time as it is now. (a true measure of sucess imo). But it sounds like you're aiming for the former.

If you're in it soley for the money, you're already in it for the wrong reasons so I will bid you good evening.

If I was only in it for the money I would have given up already mate, I've been producing for about 10 years

You are bamboozling.

The thing is though, it's nice saying you're only in it for the music, and yeah my passion is driven by my love for music - but if you're not aiming to make money then really it's a fruitless endeavor.. I dunno, maybe some guys on here still have the luxury of living with their parents or being at university, but when you're settled down and engaged to your girlfriend in your own place and your only options for making money are working in retail (i dropped out of uni) or trying to make money on tunes, then yeah.. maybe you can see why I really need to start making a bit more dough

I disagree entirely.
But you seem like a nice bloke so fair play to you and good luck.

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