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I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he?), there was also something like "when the insects come at you on all fours" (how did he forget that he gave insects 6 legs?).
He also said that in the entire book there isn't a single mention of any exotic animals like kangaroos and such. (because it was written here in the west during an era when Australia and other continents weren't discovered yet by the western civilization?)
Also this whole Noah's Ark story is complete bollocks obviously.

vishes wrote:I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he?), there was also something like "when the insects come at you on all fours" (how did he forget that he gave insects 6 legs?).
He also said that in the entire book there isn't a single mention of any exotic animals like kangaroos and such. (because it was written here in the west during an era when Australia and other continents weren't discovered yet by the western civilization?)
Also this whole Noah's Ark story is complete bollocks obviously.

it also mentions that the earth is flat and has 4 corners on a couple of occasions

ketamine wrote:Anyone delirious enough with themselves think that Atheism is a religion in its own right, with the same self righteousness and finger pointing they claim to be against.

FTFY

ketamine wrote:A better question is if you don't believe in God, why the h3ll do you care. You don't believe in Him, right?

I don't believe in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny... But I don't make JPGs of me texting "HI, I'm a Bunny-ist!" and start self righteous internet threads asking people why they eat Cadburry Chocolates.

That image got me wondering too, now, why Athiests are such ^ssholes themselves.

But it's ok when Christians do it because religious freedom.

vishes wrote:I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he.

So you blindly believe what people tell you?

Job 26:7 "He is stretching out the north over the empty place, Hanging the earth upon nothing;"

Isaiah 40:22 "There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth"

Right away you can see the danger of believing what you "heard" without investigating it for yourself. Your mate was wrong. Bible says the Earth is a circle hanging in space. Which it is. The rest of what you "heard" is just as incorrect.

Phigure wrote:

vishes wrote:I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he?), there was also something like "when the insects come at you on all fours" (how did he forget that he gave insects 6 legs?).
He also said that in the entire book there isn't a single mention of any exotic animals like kangaroos and such. (because it was written here in the west during an era when Australia and other continents weren't discovered yet by the western civilization?)
Also this whole Noah's Ark story is complete bollocks obviously.

it also mentions that the earth is flat and has 4 corners on a couple of occasions

No, it doesnt.

Wow take it easy guys, indirectly.. god created dubstep.

ketamine wrote:

vishes wrote:I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he.

So you blindly believe what people tell you?

Job 26:7 "He is stretching out the north over the empty place, Hanging the earth upon nothing;"

Isaiah 40:22 "There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth"

Right away you can see the danger of believing what you "heard" without investigating it for yourself. Your mate was wrong. Bible says the Earth is a circle hanging in space. Which it is. The rest of what you "heard" is just as incorrect.

So it's more logical to blindly believe what people thousands of years ago tell you?

SCope13 wrote:

ketamine wrote:

vishes wrote:I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he.

So you blindly believe what people tell you?

Job 26:7 "He is stretching out the north over the empty place, Hanging the earth upon nothing;"

Isaiah 40:22 "There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth"

Right away you can see the danger of believing what you "heard" without investigating it for yourself. Your mate was wrong. Bible says the Earth is a circle hanging in space. Which it is. The rest of what you "heard" is just as incorrect.

So it's more logical to blindly believe what people thousands of years ago tell you?

The Bible was right about the Earth from the start.
Science was wrong about it for a very long time.

Yes. It's more logical to believe what it says.
For instance it says we were created but today's science says we evolved--how long before that's proved to be wrong too... Explain to me why that's illogical.

ketamine wrote:

vishes wrote:I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he.

So you blindly believe what people tell you?

Job 26:7 "He is stretching out the north over the empty place, Hanging the earth upon nothing;"

Isaiah 40:22 "There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth"

Right away you can see the danger of believing what you "heard" without investigating it for yourself. Your mate was wrong. Bible says the Earth is a circle hanging in space. Which it is. The rest of what you "heard" is just as incorrect.

So you would rather believe blindly on what was written in a book by some random dude thousands of years ago?
And you don't believe that religion was created solely for the purpose of controlling large amounts of people?

But as I said, I have never read the bible so of course, I could be wrong.
I just think it's hypocritical to say something like that while you yourself obviously believe what the author of the bible was telling you. And if you go to church, what the preacher is telling you in his speeches. Who says that they are correct?

ketamine wrote:

Phigure wrote:

vishes wrote:I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he?), there was also something like "when the insects come at you on all fours" (how did he forget that he gave insects 6 legs?).
He also said that in the entire book there isn't a single mention of any exotic animals like kangaroos and such. (because it was written here in the west during an era when Australia and other continents weren't discovered yet by the western civilization?)
Also this whole Noah's Ark story is complete bollocks obviously.

it also mentions that the earth is flat and has 4 corners on a couple of occasions

No, it doesnt.

Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in
Ezekiel 7:2 Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.
Daniel 4:10-11 Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.
The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth (only possible on a flat earth)

there's many more

ketamine wrote:

vishes wrote:I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he.

So you blindly believe what people tell you?

Job 26:7 "He is stretching out the north over the empty place, Hanging the earth upon nothing;"

Isaiah 40:22 "There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth"

Right away you can see the danger of believing what you "heard" without investigating it for yourself. Your mate was wrong. Bible says the Earth is a circle hanging in space. Which it is. The rest of what you "heard" is just as incorrect.

holy shit, it's a fucking sphere, not a circle. big difference! you just proved my point. a circle is a two dimensional object, ie, flat. and the fact that it refers to it as a circle in some parts, and having 4 corners in others again just shows how inconsistent and contradictory the whole thing is

vishes wrote:And you don't believe that religion was created solely for the purpose of controlling large amounts of people?

although that's certainly a big part of what it's become, that's not really why there were created (with exceptions like mormonism, scientology, etc. those are and always have been exploitative cults)

Phigure wrote:

ketamine wrote:

Phigure wrote:

vishes wrote:I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he?), there was also something like "when the insects come at you on all fours" (how did he forget that he gave insects 6 legs?).
He also said that in the entire book there isn't a single mention of any exotic animals like kangaroos and such. (because it was written here in the west during an era when Australia and other continents weren't discovered yet by the western civilization?)
Also this whole Noah's Ark story is complete bollocks obviously.

it also mentions that the earth is flat and has 4 corners on a couple of occasions

No, it doesnt.

Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in
Ezekiel 7:2 Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.
Daniel 4:10-11 Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.
The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth:
Daniel 4:20 The tree that thou sawest, which grew, and was strong, whose height reached unto the heaven, and the sight thereof to all the earth;

there's many more

ketamine wrote:

vishes wrote:I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he.

So you blindly believe what people tell you?

Job 26:7 "He is stretching out the north over the empty place, Hanging the earth upon nothing;"

Isaiah 40:22 "There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth"

Right away you can see the danger of believing what you "heard" without investigating it for yourself. Your mate was wrong. Bible says the Earth is a circle hanging in space. Which it is. The rest of what you "heard" is just as incorrect.

holy shit, it's a fucking sphere, not a circle. big difference... you just proved my point. a circle is a two dimensional object, ie, flat

Nope, I didn't prove your point. Because your only point is to be right about a book you didn't even read, based on hearsay. Surely you can't be serious.

vishes wrote:

ketamine wrote:

vishes wrote:I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he.

So you blindly believe what people tell you?

Job 26:7 "He is stretching out the north over the empty place, Hanging the earth upon nothing;"

Isaiah 40:22 "There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth"

Right away you can see the danger of believing what you "heard" without investigating it for yourself. Your mate was wrong. Bible says the Earth is a circle hanging in space. Which it is. The rest of what you "heard" is just as incorrect.

So you would rather believe blindly on what was written in a book by some random dude thousands of years ago?
And you don't believe that religion was created solely for the purpose of controlling large amounts of people?

But as I said, I have never read the bible so of course, I could be wrong.
I just think it's hypocritical to say something like that while you yourself obviously believe what the author of the bible was telling you. And if you go to church, what the preacher is telling you in his speeches. Who says that they are correct?

The Church isn't correct. I don't go to Church.

The Bible is correct. The Church does not teach what the bible says. It teaches what it wants, with the purpose of controlling people for fininacial gain. Why do you think the Church didn't want people reading the bible and kept it in Latin for so long?

ketamine wrote:

SCope13 wrote:

ketamine wrote:

vishes wrote:I personally haven't read the bible and I'm not planning on ever doing so, but I've heard from quite a few people that did read it that there's loads of things written in there that prove that it's total bollocks.
A mate of mine for instance, who has been raised in a very religious way, told me a few of those examples once, I have forgotten most of them but I remember him saying that nowhere in that book is said that the earth is round (why not? he made the fucking thing didn't he.

So you blindly believe what people tell you?

Job 26:7 "He is stretching out the north over the empty place, Hanging the earth upon nothing;"

Isaiah 40:22 "There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth"

Right away you can see the danger of believing what you "heard" without investigating it for yourself. Your mate was wrong. Bible says the Earth is a circle hanging in space. Which it is. The rest of what you "heard" is just as incorrect.

So it's more logical to blindly believe what people thousands of years ago tell you?

The Bible was right about the Earth from the start.
Science was wrong about it for a very long time.

Yes. It's more logical to believe what it says.
For instance it says we were created but today's science says we evolved--how long before that's proved to be wrong too... Explain to me why that's illogical.

Hate to break it to you, but theres an overwhelming amount of evidence for evolution. You honestly think the creation story in the Bible is "logical"?

And yeah, sometimes science is wrong. But it keeps working to try and get things right and admits when it's wrong. That contrasts sharply to religion which just maintains something is still correct despite mountains of evidence pointing to the contrary.

what are you talking about? this has nothing to do with hearsay, i'm clearly quoting exact words from the bible where it refers to the earth as flat. you even did it yourself without realizing it. and fyi i have read the bible. you can't dismiss something without first knowing what it is

@Ketamine And never mind the fact that the Bible is misogynist, condones slavery, says being gay is wrong, and says it's OK to rape a woman if you pay her father afterwards and then get married to her. You're right, the Bible is great and has the answers to everything.

"science" isn't "right" or "wrong" lol. i mean even when it's wrong, it's right. because science is a process, not a law or doctrine. When you get something wrong for years, in order to ultimately discover even the beginning of an answer to a question, you've succeeded at science.

i think greek stories always got passed down as stories, where as the bible was clearly put together by alan sugar

Phigure wrote:what are you talking about? this has nothing to do with hearsay, i'm clearly quoting exact words from the bible where it refers to the earth as flat. you even did it yourself without realizing it. and fyi i have read the bible. you can't dismiss something without first knowing what it is

Phigure I wasn't talking to you. Your qoute got copied by mistake. Yes, it says Four Courners. It doesn't say its Flat. Its an expression to mean "to the ends of the Earth" which is something even we say today, with full knowledge that a circle has no ends.

If I said "I was online all day and am sick of it, I reached the End of the Internet" you realize I don't mean it literally. You can't haphazardly apply the rules of language, idiom, and context, when it fits, or disregard normal figures of speech just to make a book you don't agree with overly-literal.

i have read the bible many times (as well as other holy books)

there might be a lack of truth to them in terms of history or science, but there are great stories to learn from with good lessons imo. it's important to understand religions as well as they control so much of our lives whether we ascribe to them or not

that being said, there are also horrible things in many holy books

genocide, i.ncest, homophobia, misogyny, bigamy, etc...

as with all things, some good, some bad

edit: imo

to the OP: the reason people today get offended is because it is honestly what they believe to be true and it often can take a priority on their life, since this life is not much compared to the eternal paradise they seek. This involves faith, and faith is not something easily lost through reasoning imo