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Maybe his "soldiers should die" comment was a bit over the top, but for the rest he's speaking the truth...

Disgusting he got arrested.. It really is. He stated his opinion; nothing more. Not even racism.

Damn UK, I would be ashamed of your police.

Also I would be ashamed of some of your citizens, I'm reading some tweets and blog comments about this.. All saying how he should be "deported" and how he's a "racist" because he doesn't respect the "UK laws" (did he even break one?). I think they're the ones that are the racists here.

i reckon its some hothead racist police sergeant who's called for the arrest, one who is now being disciplined whilst his superiors furiously try and backpedal/spin this so it doesn't reflect quite so badly.

That said, i cant find anything on the bbc/guardian front pages about it

This is fucking depressing, country sleepwalking into totalitarianism

fuck this

particle-jim wrote:This is fucking depressing, country sleepwalking into totalitarianism

fuck this

Vote Norsefire.

This is ridiculous. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so worryingly stupid.

JBoy wrote: If he was that much of a dedicated musilm he'd go and fight for his cause instead of chatting shit online like a typical keboard warrior.

Are you trying to say the logical conclusion of being a dedicated muslim is to join the taliban?

^No of course not. I dont think he understands how multi cultural the british army is, theres hundreds of pakistani's and muslims in the armed forces. What hope do we have as a nation when people on both sides of the spectrum refuse to accept one another.

KILL EM ALLLLLL


-dont report me pls -

JBoy wrote:^No of course not. I dont think he understands how multi cultural the british army is, theres hundreds of pakistani's and muslims in the armed forces. What hope do we have as a nation when people on both sides of the spectrum refuse to accept one another.

Pakistani and muslims that are living as english citzens and in the english army are english. So are their children born in England. They are part of your society, they are citizens of your country, not something else.

Hircine wrote:

JBoy wrote:^No of course not. I dont think he understands how multi cultural the british army is, theres hundreds of pakistani's and muslims in the armed forces. What hope do we have as a nation when people on both sides of the spectrum refuse to accept one another.

Pakistani and muslims that are living as english citzens and in the english army are english. So are their children born in England. They are part of your society, they are citizens of your country, not something else.

I'm not sure they would all agree with you.

cityzen wrote:

Hircine wrote:

JBoy wrote:^No of course not. I dont think he understands how multi cultural the british army is, theres hundreds of pakistani's and muslims in the armed forces. What hope do we have as a nation when people on both sides of the spectrum refuse to accept one another.

Pakistani and muslims that are living as english citzens and in the english army are english. So are their children born in England. They are part of your society, they are citizens of your country, not something else.

I'm not sure they would all agree with you.

Of course they would not, they were exiled in an anthropoemic (not sure if that's the right translation, anthropologic process that exiles or eradicates the other within a society) process, they don't feel like englishmen, they feel threatned and unwelcome.

JBoy wrote:^No of course not. I dont think he understands how multi cultural the british army is, theres hundreds of pakistani's and muslims in the armed forces. What hope do we have as a nation when people on both sides of the spectrum refuse to accept one another.

irrelevant, because he wasn't (as i read it) trying to make a point about race.

his point was about biased coverage of the casualties on either side in the war, which he's right about.

though he also went to insult the memory of the dead british soldiers, which i dont' agree with but he is entitled to do. (the soldiers didn't decide we'd invade afghanistan, and doubtless thought they were being sent on a much more justifiable mission than what it turned out to be. and they and their families deserve some respect because they've died.)

Hircine wrote:

cityzen wrote:

Hircine wrote:

JBoy wrote:^No of course not. I dont think he understands how multi cultural the british army is, theres hundreds of pakistani's and muslims in the armed forces. What hope do we have as a nation when people on both sides of the spectrum refuse to accept one another.

Pakistani and muslims that are living as english citzens and in the english army are english. So are their children born in England. They are part of your society, they are citizens of your country, not something else.

I'm not sure they would all agree with you.

Of course they would not, they were exiled in an anthropoemic (not sure if that's the right translation, anthropologic process that exiles or eradicates the other within a society) process, they don't feel like englishmen, they feel threatned and unwelcome.

Says a dude in Brazil

tyger wrote:

JBoy wrote:^No of course not. I dont think he understands how multi cultural the british army is, theres hundreds of pakistani's and muslims in the armed forces. What hope do we have as a nation when people on both sides of the spectrum refuse to accept one another.

irrelevant, because he wasn't (as i read it) trying to make a point about race.

his point was about biased coverage of the casualties on either side in the war, which he's right about.

though he also went to insult the memory of the dead british soldiers, which i dont' agree with but he is entitled to do. (the soldiers didn't decide we'd invade afghanistan, and doubtless thought they were being sent on a much more justifiable mission than what it turned out to be. and they and their families deserve some respect because they've died.)

Political power comes from the people. People delegate that power to fair judges (some John Locke swagggg). If the soldiers didn't want to risk their lives or didn't want to invade afghanistan they should've deserted or never volunteered at all, it was their choice, not some politic organization's.

cityzen wrote:

Hircine wrote:

cityzen wrote:

Hircine wrote:

JBoy wrote:^No of course not. I dont think he understands how multi cultural the british army is, theres hundreds of pakistani's and muslims in the armed forces. What hope do we have as a nation when people on both sides of the spectrum refuse to accept one another.

Pakistani and muslims that are living as english citzens and in the english army are english. So are their children born in England. They are part of your society, they are citizens of your country, not something else.

I'm not sure they would all agree with you.

Of course they would not, they were exiled in an anthropoemic (not sure if that's the right translation, anthropologic process that exiles or eradicates the other within a society) process, they don't feel like englishmen, they feel threatned and unwelcome.

Says a dude in Brazil

What's your statement supposed to mean?

It means you can't really comment.

Hircine wrote:

tyger wrote:

JBoy wrote:^No of course not. I dont think he understands how multi cultural the british army is, theres hundreds of pakistani's and muslims in the armed forces. What hope do we have as a nation when people on both sides of the spectrum refuse to accept one another.

irrelevant, because he wasn't (as i read it) trying to make a point about race.

his point was about biased coverage of the casualties on either side in the war, which he's right about.

though he also went to insult the memory of the dead british soldiers, which i dont' agree with but he is entitled to do. (the soldiers didn't decide we'd invade afghanistan, and doubtless thought they were being sent on a much more justifiable mission than what it turned out to be. and they and their families deserve some respect because they've died.)

Political power comes from the people. People delegate that power to fair judges (some John Locke swagggg). If the soldiers didn't want to risk their lives or didn't want to invade afghanistan they should've deserted or never volunteered at all, it was their choice, not some politic organization's.

I could be wrong, but I believe Bad Things happen to soldiers who desert.

kay wrote:

Hircine wrote:

tyger wrote:

JBoy wrote:^No of course not. I dont think he understands how multi cultural the british army is, theres hundreds of pakistani's and muslims in the armed forces. What hope do we have as a nation when people on both sides of the spectrum refuse to accept one another.

irrelevant, because he wasn't (as i read it) trying to make a point about race.

his point was about biased coverage of the casualties on either side in the war, which he's right about.

though he also went to insult the memory of the dead british soldiers, which i dont' agree with but he is entitled to do. (the soldiers didn't decide we'd invade afghanistan, and doubtless thought they were being sent on a much more justifiable mission than what it turned out to be. and they and their families deserve some respect because they've died.)

Political power comes from the people. People delegate that power to fair judges (some John Locke swagggg). If the soldiers didn't want to risk their lives or didn't want to invade afghanistan they should've deserted or never volunteered at all, it was their choice, not some politic organization's.

I could be wrong, but I believe Bad Things happen to soldiers who desert.

The other option being murdering innocents and dying in a war that will accomplish nothing for the majority of mankind?

cityzen wrote:It means you can't really comment.

yeah, I totally forgot that I'm not entitled to a scientific point of view over what happened even though I've studied the matter just because of my nationality. Sorry man, I'm going back to the farms, please don't punish me with a whip.

Your sweeping statements are a joke. Sort it out.

wub wrote:

magma wrote:but since when was being unpleasant illegal?

God help SNH.

You almost killed me with this one... had a mouth full of oats, it was not pretty.

But yeah, this is fairly messed up... seems so random to pick this particular dude, out of all the awfulness on the internet.