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Nevalo wrote:id just say upfront "if you choose to steal, imma cut your throat backstage"

Duffman wrote:

meanmrcustard wrote:My thing would be to fully admit I'm going to steal, and then be all like "ima gonna steal, I'll give you 10% if you say share, otherwise we both get nothing"

that girl properly merked him though. Seen it before but it's always amazing.

Would you actually give them the 10%

meanmrcustard wrote:

Duffman wrote:

meanmrcustard wrote:My thing would be to fully admit I'm going to steal, and then be all like "ima gonna steal, I'll give you 10% if you say share, otherwise we both get nothing"

that girl properly merked him though. Seen it before but it's always amazing.

Would you actually give them the 10%

I'd really like to think I would...

... :/

ehbrums1 wrote:Honestly if they chose steal on me I would reach across and shatter their nose with one of my balls

Molzie wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote:Honestly if they chose steal on me I would reach across and shatter their nose with one of my balls

fxd

NiGHTS-24 wrote:

mrdii wrote:Mathematically you should always steal...you don't have to be a genius to understand why either, it's quite basic really.

leyenda303 wrote:

meanmrcustard wrote:

Duffman wrote:

meanmrcustard wrote:My thing would be to fully admit I'm going to steal, and then be all like "ima gonna steal, I'll give you 10% if you say share, otherwise we both get nothing"

that girl properly merked him though. Seen it before but it's always amazing.

Would you actually give them the 10%

I'd really like to think I would...

... :/

I remember seeing this one live. Think this was the biggest steal. This show was only ever worth watching in the last 5 mins tbh, the rest was just Jasper Carrot stringing things out a bit like Noel Edmonds does on Deal or No Deal. Yeah, mathematically you should always steal but there was one guy on once who when it came to the bit where they've got to convince each other to share he flat out did what meanmrcustard said and just calmly told the guy 'you need to share because I'm going to steal. When you do I'll give you 50%'. Think it was a fairly big sum around 75k that time. This entire convincing bit made the other person increasingly anxious as they realised they may as well just share as that was now the only way they were going to get any money and Jasper Carrot just looked like he was unsure what was going on. The other guy did go for share and in the end the stealer did give him 50%. The sharer looked really emotionally drained as I think he'd been planning on stealing the lot. The stealer just sat there and calmly said 'it was the only way I knew for sure I could trust you'.

collige wrote:

NiGHTS-24 wrote:

mrdii wrote:Mathematically you should always steal...you don't have to be a genius to understand why either, it's quite basic really.

This. They basically just made a game show out of the Prisoner's Dilemma, which works out fine for the game show producers since both people are going to steal most of the time and they don't have to give anyone jack shit.

Scientific research

Golden Balls has attracted attention from social scientists as a natural experiment on cooperation. A team of economists including Richard Thaler have analyzed the decisions of the final contestants and found, among others, the following (http://ssrn.com/abstract=1592456):
1. Individual players on average choose "split" (or "cooperate") 53 percent of the time.
2. Contestants' propensity to cooperate is surprisingly high for amounts that would normally be considered consequential but look tiny in their current context, what the authors label a “big peanuts” phenomenon.
3. Contestants are less likely to cooperate if their opponent has tried to vote them off the show in the first two rounds of the game, which is in line with the notion that people have an intrinsic preference for reciprocity.
4. There is little evidence that contestants’ propensity to cooperate depends positively on the likelihood that their opponent will cooperate (i.e., they find little evidence for conditional cooperation).
5. Young males are less cooperative than young females, but this gender effect reverses for older contestants since men become increasingly more cooperative as their age increases.
[edit]Criticism

British psychologist Adrian Raine has criticised the show, arguing that it "encourages deceitfulness", and that many of its contestants are celebrated for displaying "characteristics of psychopathy".[3]

wub wrote:Seems reasonable, I'd have done the same.

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dubloke wrote:this is pretty much exactly like the Prisoners Dilemma. If you're being completely theoretical about it you always steal (or snitch on your mate in the prisoners dilemma) because you work out best either way

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

Two men are arrested, but the police do not possess enough information for a conviction. Following the separation of the two men, the police offer both a similar deal—if one testifies against his partner (defects/betrays), and the other remains silent (cooperates/assists), the betrayer goes free and the cooperator receives the full one-year sentence. If both remain silent, both are sentenced to only one month in jail for a minor charge. If each 'rats out' the other, each receives a three-month sentence. Each prisoner must choose either to betray or remain silent; the decision of each is kept quiet. What should they do?

cityzen wrote: THIS is the best Dilemma