Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:37 pm
joeki wrote:I need three pints of vodka just to get going...I can't believe how weak some people are.
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How should electronic music be judged?
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Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:45 pm
If it sounds good...don't really look too much into anything else.
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:50 am
Don't you mean 3 rashers of bacon?johney wrote:Cheapskate.joeki wrote:I need three pints of vodka just to get going...I can't believe how weak some people are.
Now three pints of Absynthe...
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:14 pm
I know for me personally it has to do with space and dynamics - if a tune doesn't use up the full space it's got, it's like a drawing on a rectangular piece of paper where they just use the middle part of the paper, and don't expand the tune to its fullest. With dynamics, it's about movement - if it doesn't have some interesting sonic kinetics (yes i realize that sounds pretentious) going on then it's not really going to be interesting. That's why I can't stand most pop music or non-electronic (MOST, not all) music, because it's got no movement within your headspace; it doesn't go anywhere.
And composition. Composition is very important. I look at tunes in relation to visual art; it needs to have good placement of elements, good overall design, and some (slightly) innovative techniques - and if it doesn't have any of those, it's got to be making a statement with the notable absence of them
Like this - it might not be pleasant for you to listen to, but it's a good composition - repeating motifs, contrast of sharp-edged industrial noise and softer string/synth lines, extremely evocative, movement throughout, etc. And the point of good art isn't to be pleasant to listen to, it's to be thought-provoking and confrontational, which Roly certain excels at.
Of course, some music you just listen to because it gets you moving, and there all that goes out the window.
Tune is mindlessly repetitious, has the artist totally aping somebody else's style, and almost no variation on the central theme, but it's fun as FUCK to listen to.
And composition. Composition is very important. I look at tunes in relation to visual art; it needs to have good placement of elements, good overall design, and some (slightly) innovative techniques - and if it doesn't have any of those, it's got to be making a statement with the notable absence of them
Like this - it might not be pleasant for you to listen to, but it's a good composition - repeating motifs, contrast of sharp-edged industrial noise and softer string/synth lines, extremely evocative, movement throughout, etc. And the point of good art isn't to be pleasant to listen to, it's to be thought-provoking and confrontational, which Roly certain excels at.
Of course, some music you just listen to because it gets you moving, and there all that goes out the window.
Tune is mindlessly repetitious, has the artist totally aping somebody else's style, and almost no variation on the central theme, but it's fun as FUCK to listen to.
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:20 pm
fractal wrote:
vibes for sure, whatever types of vibes they may be
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:33 pm
wobbles wrote:dutty, dutty, motherfucking wobble bass, yois, trancey synths, and female vocals that make me "fel soo gud" while i have my colorful pacifier in
light shows tipically make it sound better too
its gotta have a sick beat too tho, something i can pump my fist to, ya know?
who doesnt love sick drops after all ';..;'
Wobbles,wobbles wrote:dutty, dutty, motherfucking wobble bass, yois, trancey synths, and female vocals that make me "fel soo gud" while i have my colorful pacifier in
light shows tipically make it sound better too
its gotta have a sick beat too tho, something i can pump my fist to, ya know?
who doesnt love sick drops after all ';..;'
Have you ever tried not being sarcastic and giving an actual, helpful answer to anyone?
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:17 pm
Read the whole thread before you act like a tnucTrifficspurs wrote:wobbles wrote:dutty, dutty, motherfucking wobble bass, yois, trancey synths, and female vocals that make me "fel soo gud" while i have my colorful pacifier in
light shows tipically make it sound better too
its gotta have a sick beat too tho, something i can pump my fist to, ya know?
who doesnt love sick drops after all ';..;'Wobbles,wobbles wrote:dutty, dutty, motherfucking wobble bass, yois, trancey synths, and female vocals that make me "fel soo gud" while i have my colorful pacifier in
light shows tipically make it sound better too
its gotta have a sick beat too tho, something i can pump my fist to, ya know?
who doesnt love sick drops after all ';..;'
Have you ever tried not being sarcastic and giving an actual, helpful answer to anyone?
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:24 pm
That's a good ideaMolzie wrote:I normally just wait to see what the consensus is here and then I'll jump on the wagon
it's called "soniking"
I should try that
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:44 pm
going "pffffffffffft" so hard you can see a huge-ass cloud of spit particles glistening in the sun, lockjaw, never wanting to produce again - all these are signs that a tune has got something going on
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:54 pm
Most of your posts are derogatory and spiteful, whilst trying to be funny through sarcasm. It doesnt work.wobbles wrote:Read the whole thread before you act like a tnucTrifficspurs wrote:wobbles wrote:dutty, dutty, motherfucking wobble bass, yois, trancey synths, and female vocals that make me "fel soo gud" while i have my colorful pacifier in
light shows tipically make it sound better too
its gotta have a sick beat too tho, something i can pump my fist to, ya know?
who doesnt love sick drops after all ';..;'Wobbles,wobbles wrote:dutty, dutty, motherfucking wobble bass, yois, trancey synths, and female vocals that make me "fel soo gud" while i have my colorful pacifier in
light shows tipically make it sound better too
its gotta have a sick beat too tho, something i can pump my fist to, ya know?
who doesnt love sick drops after all ';..;'
Have you ever tried not being sarcastic and giving an actual, helpful answer to anyone?
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:06 pm
Suck my dick homophobe.
There that wasnt sarcastic
Hope that helps
There that wasnt sarcastic
Hope that helps
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:27 pm
Any tune which makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck is what i rate as a good tune i.e dmz-anti war dub
But like its been said it does depend on the situation you are in.
But like its been said it does depend on the situation you are in.
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:40 pm
There's a couple of things that make me automatically zero a tune, like using 'cheat' production techniques, like white noise, or big trance synths. SHM are a prime example. Also if they're jacking a bandwagon style, like a James Blake rip-off etc. That's an automatic zero.
For something to be good, it needs to be original, giving a new twist to an established style, or doing something new altogether.
Needs to have depth, so you can listen to it 20 times and hear something new each time.
Helps to have a 'moment', maybe a drop, or a breakdown, or a synth line coming in, that gets you in your belly.
It helps for me if there's sounds I can't understand, drum hits or synth sounds that I can't figure out how they were made, that adds an extra element.
For something to be good, it needs to be original, giving a new twist to an established style, or doing something new altogether.
Needs to have depth, so you can listen to it 20 times and hear something new each time.
Helps to have a 'moment', maybe a drop, or a breakdown, or a synth line coming in, that gets you in your belly.
It helps for me if there's sounds I can't understand, drum hits or synth sounds that I can't figure out how they were made, that adds an extra element.
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:11 pm
Usually when I attend raves, I don a black robe and a white wig...I'm up front ya know, speaker freakin' and that sort of shit if the tune is pretty dope, but if the track just isn't going off I start banging my gavel on the speaker shouting "GUILTY!!", and that's when the rest of the crowd knows it's a wack trak the dj is playing. 
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:40 pm
hahahaha_cheef_ wrote:Usually when I attend raves, I don a black robe and a white wig...I'm up front ya know, speaker freakin' and that sort of shit if the tune is pretty dope, but if the track just isn't going off I start banging my gavel on the speaker shouting "GUILTY!!", and that's when the rest of the crowd knows it's a wack trak the dj is playing.
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:14 pm
I look for musicality, strong melody, and something with feeling. Also, this is not necessary, but I definitely appreciate progressive tunes that are pushing things forward. The reason I say this isn't necessary is because if something is good as it is, and it sounds good that way, then why change it? But, What I hate, are tunes that are stuck in a rut, no more creativity is really coming out, everything sounding the exact same, people using the same sounds. This is the lack of creativity, and there's quite a bit of it going on with some of the dungeon stuff coming out, however there is still far more creative stuff in that vein that I'm hearing than not. There's a difference between progressive thinking and creative thinking.
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:49 pm
If I think it sounds good, I like it.
Re: How should electronic music be judged?
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:04 pm
_cheef_ wrote:Usually when I attend raves, I don a black robe and a white wig...I'm up front ya know, speaker freakin' and that sort of shit if the tune is pretty dope, but if the track just isn't going off I start banging my gavel on the speaker shouting "GUILTY!!", and that's when the rest of the crowd knows it's a wack trak the dj is playing.
