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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:54 pm
by misk
asc/intex systems' stuff is pretty fresh. definitely diggin it. i dont really care where you came from, if the music's good, then its good. I myself come from a polka/psychobilly/electro background, and you can hardly tell with my tunes.
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:21 pm
by FSTZ
Misk wrote: I myself come from a polka/psychobilly/electro background, and you can hardly tell with my tunes.
LIES!!
ALL LIES!!
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:30 pm
by misk
unklefesta wrote:Misk wrote: I myself come from a polka/psychobilly/electro background, and you can hardly tell with my tunes.
LIES!!
ALL LIES!!
damnit! its that obvious? sometimes i
do slip in a polka bassline, but i thought i got away with it.
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:34 pm
by abZ
It's all good. I'll judge each producer by their tunes not their backgrounds. Most dubstep producers were making some other form of music before they got involved with dubstep. Doesn't matter. I have made quite a few dnb tracks myself.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:57 pm
by tes la rok
your background shouldnt matter as long your intention is right! but if you start making dubstep because you see just a opportunity to success "more easily", then you're on totally wrong path.... i remember someone tellin me he wants to start produce dubstep coz he thinks it's easier to release a record than on dnb scene!!!!!.. and that is totally fucked.
i come from jungle(1994) background, but i stopped followin dnb years ago. and i switched my alias and started from the clean table.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:01 pm
by josip
Tes la rok, Fracture, Martyn, Skynet, Tech Itch etc. etc. Also a plenty from breaks background (Bass Clef, I've heard that Bassbin rock too).
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:00 pm
by contraband
I guess I come from a DNB background... I find my dubstep productions always need something, layers, basslines, effects and they just end up sounding like DNB at 145 - and it's not what I love about Dubstep. I think the reason is 'cos I listened to DNB for so long???
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:07 pm
by randomhed
contraband wrote:I guess I come from a DNB background... I find my dubstep productions always need something, layers, basslines, effects and they just end up sounding like DNB at 145 - and it's not what I love about Dubstep. I think the reason is 'cos I listened to DNB for so long???
This is why i feel only a handfull, not all would crossover well. Theres so much dnb that lacks imagination i feel producers may think just slow it it down and hey presto! Ive made a dubstep tune. Then again maybe these unimaginative producers are confined within the restraints that dnb seems to impose on itself and dubstep could be a new welcome creative experience for them.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:18 pm
by contraband
randomhed wrote:contraband wrote:Then again maybe these unimaginative producers are confined within the restraints that dnb seems to impose on itself and dubstep could be a new welcome creative experience for them.
I think this has already been mentioned and proved - Martyn, Tes La, Breakage, Fracture & Neptune
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:28 pm
by ddk
well dubstep is now the "new" DnB. unfortunately.
prolly why bassline garage and grime are on a comeback.
you fassys dissing spaceape showed the new dubstep audience for what it really is. fucking DOA migration.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:40 pm
by contraband
daddek wrote:well dubstep is now the "new" DnB. unfortunately.
prolly why bassline garage and grime are on a comeback.
you fassys dissing spaceape showed the new dubstep audience for what it really is. fucking DOA migration.
what does that even mean?
DOA is fucking hilarious and - shock horror - I actuly like spaceape & the dubstep allstars 3?!?!!
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:51 pm
by jaime
IT TOOK TOO LONG FOR MARTYN TO GET MENTIONED IN THIS THREAD
he is a shining example because although he makes drum and bass - his influences have obviously always been drawn from all sorts of good music ,that guy could make anything
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:00 pm
by seckle
Jaime wrote:...his influences have obviously always been drawn from all sorts of good music ,that guy could make anything
well thats it isn't it.
broken/shadowcasting are pulling from nearly every genre you can think of, but the 140 pace of those tunes are perfect for this scene. i'd go so far as to say that martyn's kind of dug up his own niche. i think the biggest problem with this migration from the dnb world is that most of these producers are too focused on building beats to a big drop and miss the point entirely. dubstep is vibes. i'll say that again, it's vibessss. it's getting lost in the beats and bass.
this stop-start-stop-buildup-drop-start dnb thing is great, but it's not whats at the foundations of this sound. i'd also say that the reece-mentasm-amen-choppedamen-stretchedamen decade is over. all of those sounds are in our bloodstreams by now. you can cover your ears and hear them in your sleep.
there's no reason to even use those sounds for another decade imo. using them would be predictable, and the best dubstep to my ears is largely unpredictable.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:03 pm
by bagelator
just listened to those martyn numbers.. smoov. likal landslide vibe
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:36 pm
by misk
seckle wrote:
i think the biggest problem with this migration from the dnb world is that most of these producers are too focused on building beats to a big drop and miss the point entirely. dubstep is vibes. i'll say that again, it's vibessss. it's getting lost in the beats and bass.
this stop-start-stop-buildup-drop-start dnb thing is great, but it's not whats at the foundations of this sound. i'd also say that the reece-mentasm-amen-choppedamen-stretchedamen decade is over. all of those sounds are in our bloodstreams by now. you can cover your ears and hear them in your sleep.
there's no reason to even use those sounds for a decade imo. using them would be predictable, and the best dubstep to my ears is largely unpredictable.
SO true. i am amazed that the amen is still even used. and as for the reese. really how many ways can you put it in a track, and expect it to be different every time.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:23 pm
by ddk
seckle wrote:i think the biggest problem with this migration from the dnb world is that most of these producers are too focused on building beats to a big drop and miss the point entirely.
dubstep is vibes.
it's getting lost in the beats and bass.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:33 pm
by eventualdecline
Jamie from Vex'd comes from a dnb background as well.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:42 pm
by ddk
contraband wrote: what does that even mean?
should be obvious to anyone whose been into this for more than one year. these DOA migrants have brought in a new strain of techy, jump up dubstep, which bears all the trappings of jump up d&b, minus a few bpm. many these lot don't respect the original intention of the music, and blatantly diss the originators. garage is gay, fuck spaceape etc. it's sad.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:44 pm
by parson
thread makes me feel like making a tune full of chopped up amens and mentasms and reeces
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:45 pm
by the decoy
One of the coolest parts about dubstep is that it's NOT dnb.
now these dnb folks want to come over and make dnb at 140bpm?
no thanks.
Juju and Martyn can stay though.