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hasezwei wrote:i know that feel.... i used to be just excited about new interesting music, now i'm excited but also anxious cause i feel like the stuff i do will be obsolete if i dont keep up with the rest like it's some kind of race towards something.

during the last years i didnt properly produce most of the time, i didnt bang out a track idea every day, not even once a month. it just felt forced. during the last month though i've made about 20 ideas and thats because i had to. i've had a horrible shitty job that was ruining my life and the precious free time i had left was spent making beats i can listen to at work to deal with it better. at that point i didnt give a fuck what anyone else thought about my music.
ripping a loop straight from someone else's track? i don't give a fuck what you think.
mix and matching samplepacks like legos? i don't give a fuck what you think.
and most importantly: mixing down so me and my friends like it, not that someone over the internet tells me it's gonna sound good on a funktion one system cause for fucks sake no one will play that shit on a funktion one and i like it that way.


we're all doing this because when we started it was so much fun that it became a habit. so if you're wondering why it isnt fun anymore maybe its best to go back to where you began. forget all the rules, forget the morals of sampling or being ashamed of using presets. do this shit for yourself period.

nowaysj wrote:Nd, my daughter loves the turntable too. Just lives to scratch. What is w these chicks?

knotoo wrote: GOOD NIGHT

massimoz wrote:Herospook? Explain?

Ninjadog, basically I realised I was doing music for the 'wrong' reasons: fame, validation, attention, ego boost etc. If one has a big enough moral conscience and wants a more meaningful and ethical life in terms of what they do and how they interact with people affects the world, then I'm not sure if one could have the attitudes I had and be successful in making music.

Of course, being ignorant or perhaps having a significant amount of autism (helping to commit), or doing music for the reasons of absolutely loving it and wanting to serve people with great art, then with commitment to your vocation, you will be successful in music.

nowaysj wrote:Nd, my daughter loves the turntable too. Just lives to scratch. What is w these chicks?

ninjadog wrote:
Your pretty vague about your reasons, tossing words like ignorant, ethical and moral conscience makes me think more along the lines of drugs rather than stealing samples...I could absolutely be wrong here as I did consume a six pack this evening. Maybe I have commitment issues, or maybe I just got sick of EDM, but whatever the reason the spark inside me that wanted to set the world on fire must have turned into some sort of dried up tnuc. Yeah thats definitely the beer talking. Life is a fucked up game yeah?

knotoo wrote:this is a "cool story bro" vibe so beware.

Since 2007 (dabbled a bit with beats in 2005 but whatever) I've spent countless hours making beats. Sacrificed social life because of it, the whole nine. spent countless hours developing what I thought was something "unique" and "my own". tried to differentiate myself, tried to avoid trends, and so on. i'm a nobody in this electronic music shit but that's besides the point. tried different approaches i.e. banging out tracks in one session to keep the inspiration going. tried spending weeks and months on tracks (this approach is more suitable to me, i've learned...). thought about eps, albums.

never have i felt more relieved than about 9 months ago or so when "real life" got in the way and I couldn't really fuck with beats as much. not as much time. renoise hasn't even been opened in forever. and at this point, i think it's a good thing.

I've never been like "i'm a producer" and all that because i'm not, i'm a dude in my mid twenties with a laptop, keyboard, and woodwind instrument lol. who would i be fooling? this is a hobby. and should be treated as such. not to sound negative, but there's no "bout to blow" moment, even less so than a lot of delusional rappers i've come across.

i'm enjoying not obsessively making beats and being more of a music fan again, and not feeling jealous and hopeless every time i hear a sick beat that i didn't make.
got to the point i couldn't/wouldnt listen to FlyLo beats without feeling some sort of weird anxiety (not really though) because his Sonny Liston shit puts my Marty Marshall shit to shame any day of the week, any second of the day (idiotic).

and guess what, maybe i'm not ever destined to be involved with music in any capacity (still working on the label thing though ). there's a LOT of more talented dudes than me and I'm glad they exist, and they should be heard.

some of us weren't meant to be producers. being a fan has just as much value.

and on that note, whatever beats i do make this summer will likely never see light of day...and i like that.


GOOD NIGHT

massimoz wrote:

ninjadog wrote:
Your pretty vague about your reasons, tossing words like ignorant, ethical and moral conscience makes me think more along the lines of drugs rather than stealing samples...I could absolutely be wrong here as I did consume a six pack this evening. Maybe I have commitment issues, or maybe I just got sick of EDM, but whatever the reason the spark inside me that wanted to set the world on fire must have turned into some sort of dried up tnuc. Yeah thats definitely the beer talking. Life is a fucked up game yeah?

Sorry for being vague. I meant ignorant to the wrong reasons of pursuing music. Ethics in that by being more considerate about why we do certain things and how they affect other people - making sure that what we do is to benefit people and the world we live in as much as possible rather than just personal gain. Sorry if this still sounds vague, I'd otherwise have to go into tons of detail and I wanted to try and explain things in as short a post as possible. Basically I did it all for egotistical reasons, I rarely was thinking or caring about the effects of having such a big ego. I'd return to music if I felt I found a genuine hole of a music style or way it was heard/delivered which needed filling and it came naturally from me - predominantly benevolence - for the enjoyment, inspiration and education of others.

Anyway, I'm sounding weedy now and I don't mean to be. I cringe at that (again, that's my ego being far too high)!