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Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:27 am
by JTreeZY
Yeah

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:41 am
by ehbes

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:02 am
by JTreeZY
Respect donny G :Q:

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:34 am
by JTreeZY
Erm.. So i'm assuming I put the sound I want to split into the second spider? or the first?

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:37 am
by ehbes
No put it after the vocoder

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:54 am
by JTreeZY
ehbrums1 wrote:No put it after the vocoder

Into the last Line Mixer?

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:56 am
by MaZa1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Kf4#t=299s

Heres a tutorial where u can see how the connections should be.

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:25 am
by Aphile
dimension expander

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:33 pm
by skimpi
MaZa1 wrote:Make 2 or 3 copies of the synth/bass and pan one slightly to left, one slightly to right and 1 in the middle.
lol, that will just make it louder, not bigger. If each copy is effected differently though so that its got a different sound, or they are delayed very slightly, then it will appear bigger as there is different stuff happening over the stereo field, making it seem bigger and wider. By just copying them and panning them, the same stuff will be happening in both speakers, so it wont be bigger or wider, it will just be louder in volume.

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:41 pm
by MaZa1
Well, if u pan and adjust the volume for example, it wont be louder but wider and maybe a bit "stronger", and like you said, different fx to each one of them will help.

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:10 am
by ill mindset
When splitting freqs, keep the bass in mono with a little compression. Add chorus , flange, phase, distortion, etc to the mids and highs for movement, harmonics & "size". Freeze flatten and repeat as many times as necessary.

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:27 am
by Wikum
one that i'd like to add:

using compression at the very end of your chain (regardless of if you've used it before). ok, so the average channel strip starts with eq, followed by compression, then usually something like a reverb or delay at the end. adding a second compressor at the very end of the track can really help to emphasise the reverb, or make sure that tape delay doesn't fade away into the mix too soon.

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:03 am
by ill mindset
Wikum wrote:one that i'd like to add:

using compression at the very end of your chain (regardless of if you've used it before). ok, so the average channel strip starts with eq, followed by compression, then usually something like a reverb or delay at the end. adding a second compressor at the very end of the track can really help to emphasise the reverb, or make sure that tape delay doesn't fade away into the mix too soon.

nice tip, I'll try that out

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:11 am
by forsak3n
Compressor on the master, sub channels and individual tracks. Triple Compressed.

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:31 pm
by bodom418
AxeD wrote:More than half of the effects used to do this are based on delays.
Just takes some tweaking to get the right delay time, try it in ms too.
^this

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:51 pm
by JTreeZY
Are delays on Synths really that important they always seem to mess up my sounds, I guess I need more practice with em

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:00 pm
by ehbes
JTreeZY wrote:Are delays on Synths really that important they always seem to mess up my sounds, I guess I need more practice with em
are you using it as a send or an insert?

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:18 pm
by JTreeZY
ehbrums1 wrote:
JTreeZY wrote:Are delays on Synths really that important they always seem to mess up my sounds, I guess I need more practice with em
are you using it as a send or an insert?
Yeah I usually just insert one and It makes my sound into a mess or I turn it down so much it barely does anything

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:21 pm
by ehbes
delays really only work as a send effect

Re: Making sounds BIGGER?

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:27 pm
by skimpi
ehbrums1 wrote:delays really only work as a send effect
Well, not really, if it has a mix function then it can be used just as well on an insert, I usually use them as inserts as I normally want different delays on different things. Obviously if i want things to share a delay then ill bus it.
JTreeZY wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:
JTreeZY wrote:Are delays on Synths really that important they always seem to mess up my sounds, I guess I need more practice with em
are you using it as a send or an insert?
Yeah I usually just insert one and It makes my sound into a mess or I turn it down so much it barely does anything
Delays dont need to be in your face to be effective, usually if you can really tell what the delay is doing within the mix, then its too much.