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Lovin' how the intro descends into some heavy melodic synth, I thought that was pretty cool ^_^

Liking the snare too, it just needs a bit more punch, same with the kick. You've definitely got potential man

work on your build ups and transitions, also im just on laptop speakers at the moment but the lead synth seems very loud to me and drowns everything else out

So I'm trying to side chain this bass to the drums so thy stand out more, any tips on that? I'm finding it difficult to get it right, between the sub and the lead wobble. Also, how can I layer/EQ my kicks and snare so they don't get drowned out. It's there specific way they need to be done? Cause so far everything I've tried sounds like trash.

I'm trying to build more tension before my drop but I'm pretty inexperienced, any tips to make it more tense?

I apologize in advance for this bump

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RATCUB wrote:Thanks man. When I started doing this 8 months ago I swore to myself I would never use a wobble pack or anything of the sort. I really want to push myself to be original and stay true to me. How might I go about learning what sounds go where in a frequency spectrum?

Gday RATCUB, took me ages to find info about instrument frequencies, I ended up buying a book.
This guide should give you a better understanding, hope it helps.

Kick Drum- Bottom depth at 60-80Hz, slap attack at 2.5kHz
Snare Drum- Fatness at 240Hz, crispness at 5kHz
High-Hat/Cymbals- Clank or gong sound at 200Hz, crispness at 5kHz
Rack Toms- Fullness at 240Hz, attack at 5kHz
Floor Toms- Fullness at 80-120Hz, attack at 5kHz
Bass Guitar- Bottom at 60-80Hz, attack/pluck at 700-1000Hz, string noise/pop at 2.5kHz
Acoustic Guitar- Bottom at 80-120Hz, body at 240Hz, clarity at 2.5-5kHz
Electric Guitar- Fullness at 240Hz, bite at 2.5kHz
Electric Organ- Bottom at 80-120Hz, body at 240Hz, presence at 2.5kHz
Acoustic Piano- Bottom at 80-120Hz, presence at 2.5-5kHz, crisp attack at 10kHz, sharp Q at 2.5kHz
Horns- Fullness at 120-240Hz, shrill at 5-7.5kHz
Strings- Fullness at 240Hz, scratchiness at 7.5-10kHz
Congo/Bong- Resonance at 200-240Hz
Vocals- Fullness at 120Hz, boominess at 200-240Hz, presence at 5kHz, sibilance at 7.5-10kHz

Thank you so much! I really needed this. The Internet has been out at my hose too so I've been postings tuff here from my phone. Which makes googling for stuff like this difficult. I can't thankyou enough for this.

burnz wrote:

RATCUB wrote:Thanks man. When I started doing this 8 months ago I swore to myself I would never use a wobble pack or anything of the sort. I really want to push myself to be original and stay true to me. How might I go about learning what sounds go where in a frequency spectrum?

Gday RATCUB, took me ages to find info about instrument frequencies, I ended up buying a book.
This guide should give you a better understanding, hope it helps.

Kick Drum- Bottom depth at 60-80Hz, slap attack at 2.5kHz
Snare Drum- Fatness at 240Hz, crispness at 5kHz
High-Hat/Cymbals- Clank or gong sound at 200Hz, crispness at 5kHz
Rack Toms- Fullness at 240Hz, attack at 5kHz
Floor Toms- Fullness at 80-120Hz, attack at 5kHz
Bass Guitar- Bottom at 60-80Hz, attack/pluck at 700-1000Hz, string noise/pop at 2.5kHz
Acoustic Guitar- Bottom at 80-120Hz, body at 240Hz, clarity at 2.5-5kHz
Electric Guitar- Fullness at 240Hz, bite at 2.5kHz
Electric Organ- Bottom at 80-120Hz, body at 240Hz, presence at 2.5kHz
Acoustic Piano- Bottom at 80-120Hz, presence at 2.5-5kHz, crisp attack at 10kHz, sharp Q at 2.5kHz
Horns- Fullness at 120-240Hz, shrill at 5-7.5kHz
Strings- Fullness at 240Hz, scratchiness at 7.5-10kHz
Congo/Bong- Resonance at 200-240Hz
Vocals- Fullness at 120Hz, boominess at 200-240Hz, presence at 5kHz, sibilance at 7.5-10kHz

I'm working on another tune right now, very old skool skream inspired, and Ive really been looking for a way to EQ everything so my drums stand out next to the superlow sub and metal-like lead bass.

I really dug those heavier wobbles man, impressive for a first track. If you ever re-do this track and there's one thing I'd suggest you'd keep, it'd be those wobbles.
You should try EQing your drums, and just work on mastering over all.
Massive is definately worth investing in, I really reccommend getting it if you weren't already using it, I couldn't tell haha.
Also, the pre-drop melody contrasts too much with the drop to layer them, it sounds funny, and infact I actually didn't like it that much.
(ALSO, I thought the title of this thread is hilareous and that's mainly why I'm here haha)

Hope this helps!

No worries dude, Ive messaged you a link for an e-book on mixing and mastering to download (for when you have internet) I found the section on compression incredibly helpful. Enjoy

RATCUB wrote:Thank you so much! I really needed this. The Internet has been out at my hose too so I've been postings tuff here from my phone. Which makes googling for stuff like this difficult. I can't thankyou enough for this.

burnz wrote:

RATCUB wrote:Thanks man. When I started doing this 8 months ago I swore to myself I would never use a wobble pack or anything of the sort. I really want to push myself to be original and stay true to me. How might I go about learning what sounds go where in a frequency spectrum?

Gday RATCUB, took me ages to find info about instrument frequencies, I ended up buying a book.
This guide should give you a better understanding, hope it helps.

Kick Drum- Bottom depth at 60-80Hz, slap attack at 2.5kHz
Snare Drum- Fatness at 240Hz, crispness at 5kHz
High-Hat/Cymbals- Clank or gong sound at 200Hz, crispness at 5kHz
Rack Toms- Fullness at 240Hz, attack at 5kHz
Floor Toms- Fullness at 80-120Hz, attack at 5kHz
Bass Guitar- Bottom at 60-80Hz, attack/pluck at 700-1000Hz, string noise/pop at 2.5kHz
Acoustic Guitar- Bottom at 80-120Hz, body at 240Hz, clarity at 2.5-5kHz
Electric Guitar- Fullness at 240Hz, bite at 2.5kHz
Electric Organ- Bottom at 80-120Hz, body at 240Hz, presence at 2.5kHz
Acoustic Piano- Bottom at 80-120Hz, presence at 2.5-5kHz, crisp attack at 10kHz, sharp Q at 2.5kHz
Horns- Fullness at 120-240Hz, shrill at 5-7.5kHz
Strings- Fullness at 240Hz, scratchiness at 7.5-10kHz
Congo/Bong- Resonance at 200-240Hz
Vocals- Fullness at 120Hz, boominess at 200-240Hz, presence at 5kHz, sibilance at 7.5-10kHz

Interesting sound you got there mate.
I would eq a little bit of bottom end off the hats not too much though. add some panning, delay and reverb to give them some space too.
as said above i think you need a more punchy snare with some more 'oomph' around 200hz boost it there and use a compressor too.

this could be pretty nice if you cleaned/tightened it up a bit especially for a first track.

I appreciate everyones kind words and feedback! A week ago my Mac crashed and it looks like a logic board failure so it's gonna be awhile before I can produce again. Hopefully it doesn't take too long but we will see. Thanks again for taking the time to help a noobie out and I really do appreciate it.

So as I said before my computer crashed and I lost all my projects, is there any way to download this track from my soundcloud and work on it from just the WAV? Idk

hey,

I really like what you've done...is very catchy...I love the shaker/scratch sounds from the very start that grabs you...i'd probably say develop the sounds of the synths more, make everything tighter eq wise....really its pretty damn good though, who am i to say...

check this guys out to see what you think, let me know...

https://soundcloud.com/nyro-b/cat-mouse

p.s keep up the good work man

Alot of stuff going on during the drop lol.