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Re: Sidechaining, for more clean drums.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:56 pm
by mthrfnk
StratosFear wrote:If you're doing that in Ableton, all you have to do is put the compressor right after the reverb instead of before in the effects chain. It makes it sound pretty cool.
It's exactly the same in FL, probably most DAWs lol...

Re: Sidechaining, for more clean drums.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:34 pm
by wub
Am experiencing with having my sub triggered by my kick instead of ducked by it, sounding alright once I've got the settings right.

Re: Sidechaining, for more clean drums.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:41 pm
by mthrfnk
wub wrote:Am experiencing with having my sub triggered by my kick instead of ducked by it, sounding alright once I've got the settings right.
Experiencing or experimenting? :lol:

Are you triggering the sub to hit with or after the kick, because if it's with don't you get some intereference?

One thing I thought of doing in a similar vein is to trigger a blast of white noise when snares or claps hit but so as not to conflict with the actually snare or clap body. That sounds weird but I can't explain it well :|

Re: Sidechaining, for more clean drums.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:42 pm
by Bassf4ce
wub wrote:Am experiencing with having my sub triggered by my kick instead of ducked by it, sounding alright once I've got the settings right.
Would that just sound like an 808 then?

Re: Sidechaining, for more clean drums.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:44 pm
by wub
mthrfnk wrote:
wub wrote:Am experiencing with having my sub triggered by my kick instead of ducked by it, sounding alright once I've got the settings right.
Experiencing or experimenting? :lol:

Are you triggering the sub to hit with or after the kick, because if it's with don't you get some intereference?

One thing I thought of doing in a similar vein is to trigger a blast of white noise when snares or claps hit but so as not to conflict with the actually snare or clap body. That sounds weird but I can't explain it well :|
With - it's a kick without a lot of low end, so I'm having the sub hit at the same time as the kick, with a longer release on the trigger so that it fades away slightly longer. Mix it back in with the reverb from the kick itself, bit of EQing and it's a kick that is smacking about a bit more.
Bassf4ce wrote:Would that just sound like an 808 then?
No - the body/higher mids of this sample are very un-808 like.

Re: Sidechaining, for more clean drums.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:51 pm
by mthrfnk
wub wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:
wub wrote:Am experiencing with having my sub triggered by my kick instead of ducked by it, sounding alright once I've got the settings right.
Experiencing or experimenting? :lol:

Are you triggering the sub to hit with or after the kick, because if it's with don't you get some intereference?

One thing I thought of doing in a similar vein is to trigger a blast of white noise when snares or claps hit but so as not to conflict with the actually snare or clap body. That sounds weird but I can't explain it well :|
With - it's a kick without a lot of low end, so I'm having the sub hit at the same time as the kick, with a longer release on the trigger so that it fades away slightly longer. Mix it back in with the reverb from the kick itself, bit of EQing and it's a kick that is smacking about a bit more.
Bassf4ce wrote:Would that just sound like an 808 then?
No - the body/higher mids of this sample are very un-808 like.
Sounds quite good, might play around with something like that :)

Re: Sidechaining, for more clean drums.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:07 pm
by hasezwei
nice idea wub gonna give it a try

Re: Sidechaining, for more clean drums.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:33 pm
by Aerandir
Guys, what about hats? Should I sidechain them as well? I have loads of hats in my drums (like here at the drop - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ip79C4glyA ) and I wonder if I should sidechain them. Would they cause clipping if they are kept at the low volume, like here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mwL6R-Z1e4 ? Should I make long release at open high hats? What frequencies should I sidechain? I haven't tried it out yet, cause i'm at holiday but this got me into thinking. :P How do you manage your hats? Any links please? I really need some help. :)

Re: Sidechaining, for more clean drums.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:14 pm
by travis_baker
Bassf4ce wrote:
wub wrote:
Bassf4ce wrote:
wub wrote:YOU CAN SIDECHAIN THINGS OTHER THAN THE COMPRESSOR AND THE EQ
So you are telling me that I can side chain with other plugins? Could you give me an example?
ehbrums1 wrote:^ hooking ut up to the d/w of a reverb sounds very nice
why would I side chain it with reverb when I can just put reverb on the drums them self?
makes shit punchy, allows the sound to breath before it gets drowned by a sea of reverberation, i think that sidechain should only be used to tighten up a mix as a last resort. but my opinion dosnt count for much