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				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:36 am
				by NinjaEdit
				mthrfnk wrote:Also pretty sure all undergrads don't live for MTV, stop generalising. Most of the places near me when I was a student catered for dubstep/dnb/electro/house music rather than "club" music.
I'm not in the city, so we don't have stuff like that. Just cheesy clubs.
 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:13 am
				by sssShawnnnn
				OfficialDAPT wrote:Skeemstep wrote:It makes me mad when I really get to thinking about how much great music is out there compared to the terrible stuff that's put out. Then I realize that some people just can't think for themselves, much less find music for themselves. I'm very optimistic  

 
Just because you don't like the song doesn't mean that its not music.  Don't get me wrong, a lot of popular music is shitty but songs like "call me maybe" and such are actually alright the first 5 times.  After I started producing music I found myself not hating country music and such anymore and I didn't bash it like I used to.  I still prefer not to listen to Carly Ray whatever and Taylor Swift but the music they put out is far from shitty.
 
+1
Every time I hear a new Nicki Minaj or whatever song on the radio or TV, I always think to myself, "Maaaan, the producer must've spent a lot of time on that."
 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:56 am
				by NinjaEdit
				Effort != quality. They spent a lot of time making it loud. 

 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:46 am
				by mthrfnk
				jonahmann wrote:Effort != quality. They spent a lot of time making it loud. 

 
They spent a lot of time making the mix great.
You can't deny on most pop songs the mixes are spot on for their purpose (radio/club play) but thats obviousy because they get done by professional engineers.
 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:14 am
				by NinjaEdit
				No, radio has its own limiters, which means hypercompressing it themselves was a mistake.
EDIT: It doesn't matter how long it took. If I take twice as long for the same results, am I more deserving of praise?
			 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:07 am
				by Maxxan
				rayman612 wrote:hutyluty wrote:I love all one division tunes, especially love will tear us apart.
u made my brain stop for like 3 seconds
 
That in combination with your avatar made for such a funny picture
 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:15 pm
				by Attila
				jonahmann wrote:No, radio has its own limiters, which means hypercompressing it themselves was a mistake.
EDIT: It doesn't matter how long it took. If I take twice as long for the same results, am I more deserving of praise?
He didn't say radio specifically, stop trying to get all technical with how he worded something for the sake of an argument. Whether you hear them on the radio, youtube or if you download it, you can still tell the mixes on most of those songs are pretty spot on. And they should be because someone's likely getting paid a fair amount of money to do them.
 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:24 pm
				by idontreallygiveashit
				it really bothers me tbh, sometimes i can't sleep at night knowing people out there casually like mainstream tunes while i'm so deep underground i cant even see da surface*
*deep bars bruv
			 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:55 pm
				by ehbes
				idontreallygiveashit wrote:it really bothers me tbh, sometimes i can't sleep at night knowing people out there casually like mainstream tunes while i'm so deep underground i cant even see da surface*
*deep bars bruv
Innit. I had nightmares that people listen to music above 200 hz...had to go to music therapy
 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:06 pm
				by mthrfnk
				jonahmann wrote:No, radio has its own limiters, which means hypercompressing it themselves was a mistake.
EDIT: It doesn't matter how long it took. If I take twice as long for the same results, am I more deserving of praise?
I don't understand this post.
 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:23 pm
				by Augment
				ehbrums1 wrote:idontreallygiveashit wrote:it really bothers me tbh, sometimes i can't sleep at night knowing people out there casually like mainstream tunes while i'm so deep underground i cant even see da surface*
*deep bars bruv
Innit. I had nightmares that people listen to music above 200 hz...had to go to music therapy
 
Too funny, sigged 

 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:53 pm
				by Njamimars
				OfficialDAPT wrote:Skeemstep wrote:It makes me mad when I really get to thinking about how much great music is out there compared to the terrible stuff that's put out. Then I realize that some people just can't think for themselves, much less find music for themselves. I'm very optimistic  

 
Just because you don't like the song doesn't mean that its not music.  Don't get me wrong, a lot of popular music is shitty but songs like "call me maybe" and such are actually alright the first 5 times.  After I started producing music I found myself not hating country music and such anymore and I didn't bash it like I used to.  I still prefer not to listen to Carly Ray whatever and Taylor Swift but the music they put out is far from shitty.
 
The thing I find about pop music is that it's all the same formula. Every producer that produces house is the same. heavily sidechained lead with a vocal and the same melody for the entire tune. 
It's what people like yes, and those tracks aren't indeed not bad for the first time you hear it, but it's just a shame that there is no diversity in pop music.
 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:41 pm
				by ehbes
				Njamimars wrote:The thing I find about pop music is that it's all the same formula. Every producer that produces house is the same. heavily sidechained lead with a vocal and the same melody for the entire tune.
Don't go to the house board much do you 

 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:20 pm
				by legend4ry
				MTV2 (120 minutes/Gonzo) defined my teenage years, honestly haven't watched MTV since I was about 14-15 so a good 8 years or so though.
			 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:17 pm
				by dickman69
				Njamimars wrote:Every producer that produces house is the same.
the fuck are u on about
 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:06 am
				by _v_
				MTV has become whats wrong with the world imo.
Fake, trashy & no substance or artistic merit.
Brainwashing people to believe what they see is "cool"
A female friend of mine saw Chris Brown on MTV, she was going on about how cool he is etc... I mentioned how hes a scumbag that beats girls, she said she didnt care and continued to be mezmerized by the MTV (empty V).
			 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:41 am
				by zerbaman
				I've done a pretty good job of avoiding mtv for the past 5 years, and I'm still in high school.
Just turn off the telly and make some bloody beats man.
			 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:41 am
				by Electric_Head
				I see dead ppl.
			 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:15 am
				by Njamimars
				rayman612 wrote:Njamimars wrote:Every producer that produces house is the same.
the fuck are u on about
 
Forget what I said.  

 
			
					
				Re: MTV
				Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:38 am
				by wub
				MTV serves a purpose. I'm not the target audience and haven't been for at least 10yrs.