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good music is sloppy
thats how artist puts his stamp on it & stands out
every1 is different according 2 their imperfections u kno

that being said id never put crakles on a tune unless it were in the sample i used

just feels fake

rayman612 wrote:good music is sloppy

To me, I think it because of the truly random nature of vinyl crackle which makes it feel human and natural (as mentioned before) + lack of really high irritating frequencies which are around in many digitally produced sounds. Like, no two recordings vinyl crackle sample will ever be exactly alike, even if they are from the same vinyl. probably because of how much dust there is at any one time + the accuracy of the needle and stuff.

Its just nice.

crackles are like a soothing not too disruptive ambient noise that stablizes the tracks vibe and gives it authenticity at the same time. my 2cents anyways. its kidna like how hearing a sampled record pitch bent in certain parts also makes you like the song more.

Jesus everyone is getting all super deep and shit. I just like the sound....

constrobuz wrote:

rayman612 wrote:good music is sloppy

like it has 2 have a human element to it
theres a lot of music i think sounds too perfect it sounds fake

im not saying sloppy like mixed poorly or something

ehbrums1 wrote:Jesus everyone is getting all super deep and shit. I just like the sound....

He's writing a paper on why people like it. You reckon "People just like the sound." would be enough to pass?

garethom wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote:Jesus everyone is getting all super deep and shit. I just like the sound....

He's writing a paper on why people like it. You reckon "People just like the sound." would be enough to pass?

didn't the op to be honest

Dusty memories

tbh i find a lot of crackle to be annoying. took me a long time to get into burial because i just couldn't be arsed with all the crackle.

it's on a lot of tracks on Christina Aguilera's Back to Basics album cos of the retro theme, where it works

knell wrote:replace the word "youtube" in a youtube link with "vinylcrackle"
???
magic.flv

holy f*ck

rayman612 wrote:

constrobuz wrote:

rayman612 wrote:good music is sloppy

like it has 2 have a human element to it
theres a lot of music i think sounds too perfect it sounds fake

im not saying sloppy like mixed poorly or something

Poppycock.


Humans made computers -> Humans made music composition and arrangement software for computers -> Humans make music on these computers with the software -> All music has an inevitably "human element".
Objekt aint fucking sloppy.

zerbaman wrote:

rayman612 wrote:

constrobuz wrote:

rayman612 wrote:good music is sloppy

like it has 2 have a human element to it
theres a lot of music i think sounds too perfect it sounds fake

im not saying sloppy like mixed poorly or something

Poppycock.


Humans made computers -> Humans made music composition and arrangement software for computers -> Humans make music on these computers with the software -> All music has an inevitably "human element".
Objekt aint fucking sloppy.

Naaw. There’s a reason Live Music is universally agreed to be “better” than recorded music whether people even realize why. Some of it is the full Frequency spectrum being allowed to hit you, but the other 50% is the randomness of it.

4/4 DAW grids are cool & all, but un-quantized music connects with people on an unconscious level.

ketamine wrote:

zerbaman wrote:

rayman612 wrote:

constrobuz wrote:

rayman612 wrote:good music is sloppy

like it has 2 have a human element to it
theres a lot of music i think sounds too perfect it sounds fake

im not saying sloppy like mixed poorly or something

Poppycock.


Humans made computers -> Humans made music composition and arrangement software for computers -> Humans make music on these computers with the software -> All music has an inevitably "human element".
Objekt aint fucking sloppy.

Naaw. There’s a reason Live Music is universally agreed to be “better” than recorded music whether people even realize why. Some of it is the full Frequency spectrum being allowed to hit you, but the other 50% is the randomness of it.

4/4 DAW grids are cool & all, but un-quantized music connects with people on an unconscious level.

You know, that's not the point here. At no point did live music become a factor. And if you're listening to records through mediums that do not enable you to experience every frequency audible to the human ear, that's your own fault. Not the recordings.

Nonetheless, prove it.
I want some incontrovertible empirical evidence, not just an opinion that was formulated somewhere between smoking weed with friends and discussing the matter in question on internet forums.

id call cactus sloppy

rayman612 wrote:id call cactus sloppy

You're gonna have to qualify that statement rayman612.

Say LFO and you're banned.

b/c tha drums

What about them for Christ's sake. You're a producer, you should be able to speak about this.

do the drums in cactus sound like drums in other tunes
no, they stray away form the norm, theyre not perfect 4x4 drums... the snare is off beat its sloppy sounding

also one of my favorite tunes