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cheers randorando mate but i use reason MUAHAAHA. also thanks to everyone in the thread, my kicks are improving haha.

Kicks are an underrated artform, mayne. Hardcore gets waay too much hate. A lot of that shit has a ridiculously high production value o.o

Genevieve wrote:Kicks are an underrated artform, mayne. Hardcore gets waay too much hate. A lot of that shit has a ridiculously high production value o.o

Good production doesn't mean a good song.

some of it is impressive though haha

blinkesko wrote:

Genevieve wrote:Kicks are an underrated artform, mayne. Hardcore gets waay too much hate. A lot of that shit has a ridiculously high production value o.o

Good production doesn't mean a good song.

at first i was like


but then i was like

blinkesko wrote: Good production doesn't mean a good song.

also mixdown > production, always.
really cheap ghettotech if its well done can engage me much much more than hypercomplex sound design bassline shit with way too loud drums, too much bass, sizzling highs and no dynamics whatsoever

blinkesko wrote:

Genevieve wrote:Kicks are an underrated artform, mayne. Hardcore gets waay too much hate. A lot of that shit has a ridiculously high production value o.o

Good production doesn't mean a good song.

This is relevant to slews of EDM producers saying it takes no skill to make hardcore.

in that respect you're absolutely right of course.
i think hardcore kicks are somewhat similar to reeses/midrange basslines, they're very easy to overdo. getting the balance between sick-factor and actual quality right is what most people struggle with without even knowing it.

Genevieve wrote:

blinkesko wrote:

Genevieve wrote:Kicks are an underrated artform, mayne. Hardcore gets waay too much hate. A lot of that shit has a ridiculously high production value o.o

Good production doesn't mean a good song.

This is relevant to slews of EDM producers saying it takes no skill to make hardcore.

Oh, alright. From the way you said it just sounded like hardcore shouldn't get hate from ordinary listeners because it has a high production value.

all that effort to make a track sounding like shit