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Re: How many times have you Blue Screened, while producing?

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:00 pm
by SMOR3S
Brothulhu wrote:
SMOR3S wrote: Ya it's not my hardware.. I used to be an avid overclocker, so I know what settings are what....
Knowing what settings are what doesn't really mean anything if it's still unstable. Your settings can be perfect but if you don't have enough cooling, have some faulty hardware etc. they still will cause issues
My idle and max temps stay way under the 62c mark, so it's all good... I am pretty sure it's my audio device that's causing it, cause like I said, when I get high CPU usage in Ableton sometimes, it'll freeze up, and when I unplug the USB cable from it, I BSOD... I normally don't BSOD, so It's not a common thing for me :3 I benchmark, overclock, and game intensively, so I gotta make sure my system is stable.. My 955 is @ stock clocks, and my NB is too, so it's not an OC causing it, or heat, or voltage w/e....

Read this:

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=92499

I am going to go re-install my Asio, and Scarlett 2i2 drivers, and see if that works...

Re: How many times have you Blue Screened, while producing?

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:43 pm
by Hircine
pony bwoy, 62º C is way too hot brother, get some proper cooling. plus, never disconnect the audio card while it's processing audio. If you are reaching 100% in ableton start bouncing some stuff to audio or use an external dsp processor.

Re: How many times have you Blue Screened, while producing?

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:17 pm
by wub
Hircine wrote:pony bwoy, 62º C is way too hot brother, get some proper cooling. plus, never disconnect the audio card while it's processing audio. If you are reaching 100% in ableton start bouncing some stuff to audio or use an external dsp processor.

:z:

Re: How many times have you Blue Screened, while producing?

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:54 pm
by VirtualMark
Hircine wrote:pony bwoy, 62º C is way too hot brother, get some proper cooling. plus, never disconnect the audio card while it's processing audio. If you are reaching 100% in ableton start bouncing some stuff to audio or use an external dsp processor.
62ºC isn't hot at all! And it depends a lot on the processor, the size of the case, the cooling system, the CPU load, the voltages etc. A lot of thin laptops run quite hot due to not having much room for cooling. Usually internal throttling kicks in at about 100ºC, so 62º isn't anything to worry about.

That being said - OP have you tried running a stability test? LinX is pretty good for this, set the threads to however many cores you have and leave it on for a couple of hours. If it fails for any reason, you've got a problem.

Also, if you have overclocked your system in the past, it's normal for the CPU to degrade. Usually it means you have to keep upping the voltages to get it to run stable.

Re: How many times have you Blue Screened, while producing?

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:33 pm
by Brothulhu
62ºC is the ceiling for a 955 running at stock speeds according to AMD so yeah depending on the chip 62 is pretty hot

Re: How many times have you Blue Screened, while producing?

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:14 pm
by VirtualMark
Brothulhu wrote:62ºC is the ceiling for a 955 running at stock speeds according to AMD so yeah depending on the chip 62 is pretty hot
Ah, i'm used to Intel. It seems that AMDs have lower max temperatures than Intel.

Re: How many times have you Blue Screened, while producing?

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:42 pm
by Brothulhu
A quick google says that if an i7 is getting up to 70 there's a problem so maybe you should look into better cooling :P

My i7 920 is sitting at 46ºC under load @4.4Ghz. I think the fact my room is freezing most of the time helps though

Re: How many times have you Blue Screened, while producing?

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:56 pm
by Fbac
Dont mean to sound like a dick but this thread reads like a bragging thread.

Maybe im lame but i always thought it was important to work within your limitations? Why over-clock if your going to crash your machine?

not hating, just think maybe you dont BSOD you just wanted to brag about your machine.... wasnt your last thread... how much you max your cpu or something?
(a thread on how to run a maxxed out computer might be more relevent to the board maybe? some good information here on cooling and stuff.)

Re: How many times have you Blue Screened, while producing?

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:01 am
by Kibb
I've never BSOD'd...

Re: How many times have you Blue Screened, while producing?

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:38 am
by mthrfnk
Whilst producing... never.
I run an OC'd i7.

Only BSODs I ever get are sometimes when I try to hotswap my HDMI connector on my Gfx card, which I can't seem to fix :(

Re: How many times have you Blue Screened, while producing?

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:59 am
by VirtualMark
Brothulhu wrote:A quick google says that if an i7 is getting up to 70 there's a problem so maybe you should look into better cooling :P

My i7 920 is sitting at 46ºC under load @4.4Ghz. I think the fact my room is freezing most of the time helps though
My i7 2600k runs at 4.6 and barely breaks a sweat, but we can't compare that to an AMD chip. They're built on different processes and have different layouts and materials.

TBH i think this is getting a little off topic - the OP said that it wasn't getting near 62ºC, so i doubt that overheating is the problem.

Re: How many times have you Blue Screened, while producing?

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:10 am
by VirtualMark
Fbac wrote:Dont mean to sound like a dick but this thread reads like a bragging thread.

Maybe im lame but i always thought it was important to work within your limitations? Why over-clock if your going to crash your machine?

not hating, just think maybe you dont BSOD you just wanted to brag about your machine.... wasnt your last thread... how much you max your cpu or something?
(a thread on how to run a maxxed out computer might be more relevent to the board maybe? some good information here on cooling and stuff.)
To be honest the thread is a bit stupid - the OP claims to be an avid overclocker, yet thinks that running a stable CPU at 100% for extended periods causes blue screens... :roll:

Yeah you're right - a machine that BSODs all the time is about as useful as a chocolate teapot. Stability is more important than performance, and if you crash regularly you run the risk of losing data.